CONTACTS 
0201 - Bootstrap Institute
020101 - Mr. Douglas C. Engelbart, Ph.D.
0202 - Sri International
020201 - Mr. Lee Iverson
0203 - Sri International
020301 - Mr. Pat Lincoln; 650 859 5454

SUBJECTS
OHS/DKR Meeting at SRI 000518

0403 -
0403 -    ..
0404 - Summary/Objective
0405 -
040501 - Follow up ref SDS 46 0000, ref SDS 39 0000.
040502 -
040503 - Doug continues Herculian effort to promote DKR project with whirlwind
040504 - schedule of appearances. ref SDS 0 2079   Need organizational platform
040505 - to develop project schedule, budget, staff and to make assignments.
040506 - Team marshaling open source volunteer resources.  Pat Lincoln and Lee
040507 - Iverson provide strong effort by SRI, despite lack of cash reported
040508 - last week. ref SDS 0 0784  Good progress today on primary vector of
040509 - OHS; DKR, and Fellows program suffer from lack of funds. ref SDS 0
040510 - 3855  Doug and Pat gaining interest in Washington; many requests for
040511 - presentations on DKR project. ref SDS 0 1760  Private sector interest,
040512 - also building. ref SDS 0 0752  Doug demonstrated Augment; ref SDS 0
040513 - 5992; focus on developing prototype to demo software multiple views,
040514 - ref SDS 0 7238, and addressability in email, ref SDS 0 2760, shows
040515 - project commitment to develop useful products, rather than high-tech
040516 - tourism, cited by Marcollo last week. ref SDS 0 6821  Pat reported
040517 - submissions to summarize project objectives and near term planning
040518 - have helped develop presentations for funding. ref SDS 0 0852  Doug
040519 - sets priority to develop prototypes to support funding efforts.
040520 - ref SDS 0 4810   Eugene setting up separate email account to expedite
040521 - project development work. ref SDS 0 5985  Team commitment to open
040522 - source planned for 000706; study requested by Doug on 000601 will show
040523 - viability of Open Source. ref SDS 0 6150  Knowledge Management as
040524 - focus of DKR project was not reviewed today. ref SDS 0 2808  Joe has a
040525 - glossary up and running on a web site, requesting more input from the
040526 - team. ref SDS 0 5783  Progress will improve next week with focus on
040527 - use cases. ref SDS 0 4933  Evaluation pending for starter technologies
040528 - set on 000525. ref SDS 0 4084
040529 -
040530 -     [On 000616 received minutes of meeting from Su-Ling Yee.
040531 -     ref SDS 55 0001
040532 -
040533 -
040534 -
040535 -
040536 -
0406 -

SUBJECTS
DKR Project Staff
Seminar Cadence, 000601

0604 -
0605 - Discussion
060601 -  ..
060602 - Events, Introductions - Diverse Skills Focused on DKR Project
060603 -
060604 - Follow up ref SDS 46 2079, ref SDS 39 2079.
060605 -
060606 - Doug Engelbart
060607 -
060608 -     Will be out of town the next two weeks.  On the Thursday he comes
060609 -     back, he'll be giving his Cadence talk on the OHS.  We agreed to
060610 -     reschedule that week's meeting when the time comes so that Doug
060611 -     can attend, reported by Su-Ling Yee on 000616. ref DRP 10 2880
060613 -        ..
060614 -       [On 000616 received minutes of meeting from Su-Ling Yee.
060615 -       ref SDS 55 0001
060616 - ..
060617 - Guests...
060619 -  ..
060620 - Keith Laderaut,
060621 -
060622 -     Is with SRI's biology lab, and who'd be interested in using the
060623 -     "10th generation" of the Open Hyperdocument System. ref DRP 10
060624 -     3650
060625 -
060626 -
060627 -
060628 -
0607 -

SUBJECTS
Project Management
Planning, Objectives, Schedule, Budget, Agenda Issues
SRI Organizational Platform, Project Management
Management and Governance
Iverson, Lee Assigned Full Time by SRI
Lincoln, Pat (SRI) Assisting on Sponsor Outreach for Funding

1808 -
180901 -  ..
180902 - Organizational Platform Sought; SRI Aids Funding Outreach
180903 - Project "Plan" to Attract Sponsors Must Show Ability to Perform
180904 -
180905 - Follow up ref SDS 46 0784, ref SDS 39 0784.
180906 -
180907 - No discussion of Millennium project for organizational platform
180908 - discussed on 000601. ref SDS 46 1624
180910 -  ..
180911 - Pat Lincoln and Lee Iverson supporting project under SRI participation
180912 - reported during the meeting on 000601. ref SDS 46 1760
180913 - ..
180914 - Nothing tasked today on developing a schedule, budget, staff
180915 - requirements and management manual to demonstrate ability to perform,
180916 - reflecting reliance on SRI and/or other agency for organizational
180917 - platform, reviewed on 000601. ref SDS 46 1575
180918 -
180919 -
180921 -  ..
180922 - Meeting Agendas Set Project Priorities, Need Schedule for Priority
180923 -
180924 - Follow up ref SDS 46 4455.
180925 -
180926 - No discussion today on meeting agenda issues to identify "hooks" that
180927 - attract funding, from letter, ref DIP 2 0001, citing issues from the
180928 - record on 000407, ref SDS 10 6554, and supplemented by list on 000531.
180929 - ref SDS 44 8730
180930 -
180931 -    [On 000615 discussed disposition of meeting agenda issues.
180932 -
180933 -
180934 -
1810 -

SUBJECTS
OHS Primary Objective, Doug, Marcello, 000601
Organizational Platform, Millennium, Doug
Management and Governance
Fellows Program, Doug
DKRs Build, Doug, Marcello, 000601
Organizational Platform, 000601
Fellows Program, Doug, Marcello, 000601
SRI Organizational Platform, Project Management, 000419
Vector Task Priorities, 000601
Millennium Project Organizational Platform, 000601

3012 -
301301 -  ..
301302 - Vector Sets OHS as Foundation of Project
301303 - Organization (Platform) Needed to Take Over Project Operations
301304 - Follows Program Invites Prominent People to Address SRI Team
301305 -
301306 - Follow up ref SDS 46 3855.
301307 -
301308 - Progress on vectors set by Doug on 000601...
301309 -
301310 -    1.  OHS is foundation of the project effort so far, reported vector
301311 -        on 000601. ref SDS 46 3855
301313 -         ..
301314 -        Schedule, budget and staffing, see above. ref SDS 0 4745
301316 -         ..
301317 -        Team focused today on developing "storyboard" for identifying
301318 -        multiple views to improve software programming, per below.
301319 -        ref SDS 0 7238
301320 -        ..
301321 -        Progress today on email enhancements, including backlink
301322 -        management, and addressability, per below. ref SDS 0 2760
301324 -         ..
301325 -        No schedule yet to develop architecture called out by Jack Park
301326 -        on 000426, ref SDS 21 0304, review of design requirements
301327 -        proposed by Eric Armstrong, per action item on 000505,
301328 -        ref SDS 45 4864, and called out by Marcello on 000601 for
301329 -        attracting sponsor support. ref SDS 46 4080
301331 -         ..
301332 -        No progress reviewing requirements for CDS predicate to OHS,
301333 -        per below. ref SDS 0 5880  Starter technologies need analysis
301334 -        to formulate funding demo per action items proposed on 000601,
301335 -        ref SDS 46 5056, see below. ref SDS 0 4084
301336 -
301337 -        ..
301338 -    2.  Finding an organization that will take over operational
301339 -        support.
301341 -         ..
301342 -        No progress reported on this vector.
301343 -
301345 -         ..
301346 -    3.  Building the DKRs. ref SDS 46 2200
301347 -
301348 -        Per below, ref SDS 0 2808, Jack Park's recommendation on 000426
301349 -        to set scope and purpose of a DKR, ref SDS 21 2340, based on
301350 -        record of meeting on 000518 explaining "knowledge," ref SDS 39
301351 -        3528, and Marcello Hoffman's suggestion on 000601 to identify a
301352 -        "hook" to attract funding sponsors, ref SDS 46 4080, suffers
301353 -        from lack of resources.
301354 -
301355 -        ..
301356 -    4.  Fellows program. ref SDS 46 5644
301357 -
301358 -        No discussion on this vector today.
301359 -
301360 -
301361 -
301362 -
3014 -

SUBJECTS
Sponsor/Stakeholder Planning
Hoffman, Marcello
Lincoln, Pat
Funding Trip to Washington, Need Support for Open Source
Finance Requires Proof of Concept, 000601
High Tech Tourism, Fear Blocks Funding, 000601
SDS Proof of Concept DKR Knowledge Space, Jack Park, 000426
Proof of Concept, 000426
SRI Spin-Off
DARPA; DOD; Sun Microsystems

4412 -
441301 -  ..
441302 - Sponsors Looking for Projects in Knowledge Management
441303 -
441304 - Follow up ref SDS 46 4877, ref SDS 41 4877.
441305 -
441306 - Doug reported that Washington is starting to happen.
441307 -
441309 -     ..
441310 -    Doug/Pat Presentations for DARPA Next Week on Using Internet
441311 -    SPC Workshop for DARPA on Applying Internet; Doug/Pat to Present
441312 -
441313 -    Follow up ref SDS 46 1760.
441314 -
441315 -    DARPA and their information systems people want ideas about how to
441316 -    redo/reuse the Net.  DARPA contracted SPC to run workshops on this
441317 -    topic.  Next week, Doug and Pat will present at this workshop in
441318 -    Washington D.C., as reported on 000616 by Su-Ling Yee, ref DRP 10
441319 -    3472, and previously reported in the meeting at SRI on 000601.
441320 -    ref SDS 46 6295
441321 -
441322 -       [On 000616 received minutes of meeting from Su-Ling Yee.
441323 -       ref SDS 55 0001
441325 -     ..
441326 -    No discussion on notifying DARPA about ability to use the Net for
441327 -    Knowledge Management that adds "intelligence" to daily meetings,
441328 -    calls and other tasks, that supports Enterprise Management model,
441329 -    commonly called a virtual or paperless office, submitted to the
441330 -    project team in a letter, ref DIP 3 0001, submitted on 000606.
441331 -    ref SDS 51 0001
441333 -     ..
441334 -    DOD Contacted Doug on DKR Opportunities
441335 -
441336 -    Doug received email from the Senior Advisor to the Secretary of
441337 -    Defense who is interested in scaling up the Department of Defense's
441338 -    improvement infrastructure. ref DRP 10 1360
441340 -     ..
441341 -    Sun Needs OHS Long Term, Wants Better Hardware Design Tools
441342 -
441343 -    Doug and Pat went to Sun today at Andy Poggio's invitation to
441344 -    discuss how OHS can help solve his division's problem of hardware
441345 -    design software.  One of Andy's biggest short-term needs is better
441346 -    interaction between his tools.  In the long term, Andy could use
441347 -    the OHS. ref DRP 10 1521
441348 -
441350 -     ..
441351 -    Demo Project Deliverable Aids Sponsor Outreach
441352 -    Funding Requires Initial Project Development
441353 -
441354 -    Follow up ref SDS 46 6821.
441355 -
441356 -    Below, team meeting focused on developing support for sponsor
441357 -    outreach by developing presentation of project capabilities and
441358 -    objectives that support critical objectives in Knowledge
441359 -    Management, ref SDS 0 0852, following up reports on 000601.
441360 -    ref SDS 46 1760
441362 -     ..
441363 -    Discussion last week on mocking up demos, ref SDS 46 3824, and
441364 -    having show and tell presentations of what team contributors would
441365 -    like to do, ref SDS 46 1305, was addressed during the meeting
441366 -    today by...
441367 -           ..
441368 -       1.  Focusing on prototype of enhanced software programming
441369 -           that provides multiple views (see below, ref SDS 0 7238),
441370 -           and email addressability. ref SDS 0 2760
441372 -            ..
441373 -       2.  Augment demoed today, ref SDS 0 5992; need write up on using
441374 -           this to show prototype DKR capability, per Marcello's report
441375 -           on 000601. ref SDS 46 3824
441377 -         ..
441378 -        [On 000615 Augment demo tape will be developed. ref SDS 54 6821
441379 -
441381 -     ..
441382 -    Funding Requires Proof of Concept, Not High Tech "Tourism"
441383 -
441384 -    Follow up ref SDS 46 1007.
441385 -
441386 -    Planning today to develop prototype capability for demonstrating
441387 -    better software programming by providing multiple views, and email
441388 -    with addressability, per above, ref SDS 0 6821, recognizes
441389 -    Marcello's recommendation on 000601 that getting funded requires
441390 -    demonstrating useful tools that "hook" prospective funding
441391 -    sponsors, rather than high-tech tourism. ref SDS 46 1007
441393 -     ..
441394 -    No discussion today on implementing Knowledge Management based on
441395 -    report by professor Mary Keeler at the meeting on 000518, showing a
441396 -    development path to transition from documents to Knowledge Space,
441397 -    ref SDS 39 2808, cited by Jack Park on 000426 that SDS provides
441398 -    proof of concept for aspects of a DKR.
441399 -
441400 -        [...below, Doug sets OHS priority vector. ref SDS 46 3855
441401 -
441402 -
441403 -
441404 -
4415 -

SUBJECTS
Purpose DKR
Summary Project for Funding Presentation
Lincoln, Pat
Summary Project Support Government Funding, Pat, 000601
Government Agencies, Funding Outreach
Project Summary
Stringer, Warren

5209 -
521001 -     ..
521002 -    Summarize Project Support Funding Inquiries for DKR
521003 -
521004 -    Follow up ref SDS 46 0852.
521005 -
521006 -    Discussion about drafting proposal to obtain government funding,
521007 -    per above. ref SDS 0 4877
521009 -     ..
521010 -    Pat says pieces from all contributions thus far on the list can be
521011 -    used to craft this. ref DRP 10 2208
521013 -     ..
521014 -    Eugene especially liked the first few sentences of Warren's
521015 -    proposal, because it set the context of the project. ref DRP 10
521016 -    8281
521017 -    ..
521018 -    Pat agreed, and made the following points:
521019 -
521020 -    •  Paragraph should set the proper context, as Warren's did.
521021 -
521022 -    •  It should focus on the U.S.
521023 -
521024 -    •  It shouldn't mention things like bioweapons or nanoweapons, as
521025 -       DARPA is currently funding these types of projects.
521026 -
521027 -    •  The final sentence should suggest what DARPA should do.
521029 -     ..
521030 -    Doug added that we should mention in our pitch that we are seeking
521031 -    industry funds in parallel.  Pat agreed, noting that DARPA expects
521032 -    technology transition strategies to be mentioned in proposals.
521033 -    ref DRP 10 5183
521034 -    ..
521035 -    Pat said that in the "first steps" paragraph, we should say
521036 -    what we expect to accomplish over the next three years.  We need to
521037 -    include the advantages of solving a serious problem.  The OHS and
521038 -    DKR should be mentioned in this paragraph, along with parallel
521039 -    projects that we see growing out of these. ref DRP 10 0870
521041 -     ..
521042 -    Pat and Lee explain that we are pitching a DARPA program, not a
521043 -    proposal.  Programs provide funding for a multitude of projects.
521044 -    Proposals are pitched under the auspice of a program.  Once a
521045 -    program is created, DARPA creates a BAA (Broad Agency Announcement)
521046 -    soliciting proposals.  In essence, we are helping DARPA create a
521047 -    BAA with our proposal. ref DRP 10 2162
521048 -    ..
521049 -    Marcello noted that the process of creating a program is a
521050 -    long one, typically around 18 months. ref DRP 10 5402
521052 -     ..
521053 -    Pat added that there are ways to shortcircuit the process.
521055 -     ..
521056 -    The "first steps" paragraph should include the maximum amount of
521057 -    interesting, useful info that will fit in the paragraph.
521058 -    Referencing standards (eg.  XML, etc.) that we can build on top of
521059 -    is important. ref DRP 10 1600
521061 -     ..
521062 -    Important to include scheduled breakthroughs.
521063 -
521064 -       [...per above, work on project schedule is pending. ref SDS 0
521065 -       4745
521067 -     ..
521068 -    Pat has enough suggestions to piece together a paragraph; he will
521069 -    send it out to the mailing list for comments. ref DRP 10 3364
521070 -
521071 -        [...below, no discussion of "knowledge management" developed on
521072 -        000518, as engine of DKR project. ref SDS 46 2808
521073 -
521074 -        [On 000613 received minutes of meeting from Su-Ling Yee.
521075 -        ref SDS 52 0001
521076 -
521078 -     ..
521079 -    Audience for Sponsor Funding is Government Agencies
521080 -
521081 -    Follow up ref SDS 46 4896.
521082 -
521083 -    No discussion on tailoring project summary for funding to audience
521084 -    of government agencies, per agreement at the meeting last week.
521085 -    ref SDS 46 4896
521086 -
521087 -
521088 -
5211 -

SUBJECTS
Software Programming Program Initial Product, 000406
Comments Only; Code Only - No Comments, 000608
Functions Only; Call Trees; Object Hierarchies, 000608
Collapsible Blocks; Context Highlighting; Change Logs, 000608
Improved Context Highlighting for Software Programming, 000608
Storyboard Design Features, 000608
Prototype Requested Software Programming Features, 000608
Software Programming Multiple Views, Doug, 000601
IP Protection Built into Archiecture, Journaling, Lee Iverson, 000608
Prototype Software Programming Multiple Views, Doug, 000608
Software Multiple Views

7813 -
781401 -  ..
781402 - Multiple Views, Storyboard Features for Software Programming
781403 - Software Programming Multiple Views, Storyboard Features
781404 - Programmers Initial Target Community Supports Bootstrapping
781405 -
781406 - Follow up ref SDS 46 7238, ref SDS 8 5730.
781407 -
781408 - It was suggested during the meeting today that a useful design
781409 - method is to...
781410 -
781411 -     ...prepare a storyboard that identifies useful features...
781412 -
781413 - ...that provide a "hook" to attract funding sponsors, discussed during
781414 - the meeting on 000601. ref SDS 46 0852
781416 -      ..
781417 -     On 000413 Software Carpentry reported on open source efforts to
781418 -     improve software programming. ref SDS 11 2160  Experience aligned
781419 -     with report on 990525 that engineers resist efforts to save time
781420 -     and reduce cost. ref SDS 1 0966
781422 -  ..
781423 - For example, it depends on the style people do their programming.
781424 - Doug says it's important to have different options for views.
781425 - ref DRP 10 2720
781426 -
781427 -    [On 000727 Cliff Joslyn proposed different link types which may
781428 -    support multiple views. ref SDS 57 2632
781430 -  ..
781431 - On 000601 multiple views set as project priority, ref SDS 46 7238,
781432 - following Doug's request on 000405. ref SDS 8 5730
781434 -  ..
781435 - Today, Doug asked how long it will take to make a prototype to
781436 - demonstrate multiple views? ref DRP 10 4100
781438 -  ..
781439 - Views Useful to Software Programming Include...
781440 -
781441 -    •  Comments-only.
781442 -
781443 -       Lee asked what this means. ref DRP 10 5355
781444 -
781445 -       Doug noted that this is useful depending on a programmer's style
781446 -       of commenting.
781447 -       ..
781448 -       Eugene agreed, stating that this view might be good for
781449 -       languages that embed documentation in comments within source
781450 -       code, such as Java.
781451 -
781452 -    •  Code-only (no comments).
781453 -
781454 -    •  Functions only.
781455 -
781456 -    •  Call trees.
781457 -
781458 -    •  Object hierarchies.
781459 -
781460 -    •  Collapsible blocks.
781461 -
781462 -    •  Context highlighting.
781464 -        ..
781465 -       Improve Context Highlighting for Software Engineering
781466 -
781467 -       Eugene noted that while this is almost a universal feature,
781468 -       there are still some creative things we can do. For example, he
781469 -       suggested bolding or graying out code based on profiling
781470 -       information -- the more often code is called, the bolder it
781471 -       looks. ref DRP 10 2970
781473 -        ..
781474 -       Lee suggested using context highlighting with change log
781475 -       information to do blame attribution. ref DRP 10 3570
781477 -        ..
781478 -       Pat suggested highlighting code that had been proven correct.
781479 -       ref DRP 10 5916
781480 -       ..
781481 -       He also suggested combining context highlighting with unit
781482 -       testing information: highlighting code that had a unit test,
781483 -       code that had been covered, etc. ref DRP 10 0943
781484 -
781485 -    •  Change logs.
781486 -
781487 -       John proposes building IP protection into the architecture and
781488 -       discusses 3rd party escrow.
781490 -        ..
781491 -       Lee says verifiable journaling meets this need. ref DRP 10 4875
781493 -        ..
781494 -       [...below, team will focus initially on email to provide
781495 -       addressability. ref SDS 0 2760
781497 -        ..
781498 -       [...below, Eugene sets priority for meeting next week to develop
781499 -       use cases analysis of email prototype. ref SDS 0 4933
781501 -        ..
781502 -       [...below Doug demonstrated Augment, did not have time to submit
781503 -       data structures Augment. ref SDS 0 5992
781505 -        ..
781506 -       [On 000614 team develops design ideas for multiple views.
781507 -       ref SDS 53 7046
781509 -        ..
781510 -       [On 000614 Eric Armstrong reviews progress on software
781511 -       development; proposes deferring work to concentrate on OHS
781512 -       (CDS). ref SDS 53 5826
781514 -        ..
781515 -       [On 000812 Eric Armstrong relates maintenance problems caused
781516 -       multiple views with servletts on server side. ref SDS 59 0I6O
781517 -
781518 -
781519 -
781520 -
781521 -
7816 -

SUBJECTS
Engelbart, Doug
Objective OHS Development Vector, Doug, 000405
Procedures and Tools Transcoding, IBM's WBI, 000324
Schedule for OHS Development Vector, Doug, 000405
Email Improves with Links, Doug Sets for Team, 000405
Email XML Seed Team Use What is Available, 000302
Linking BrowseUP OHS Open Hyperlinking System OHS, 010219
Back Link Management, Doug Engelbart Wants for OHS Cites Jeff Conklin
Linking Alignment Traceability Orginal Sources Attribution Intelligen
Back Link Management Doug Engelbart Wants for OHS Cites Development b

9312 -
931301 -  ..
931302 - Back Link Management Developed by Doug's Colleague
931303 - Email Addressability Needed to Aid Project, Demonstrate Progress
931304 -
931305 - Follow up ref SDS 46 2760, ref SDS 8 2484.
931306 -
931307 - The team concluded today that a very important thing to start with is
931308 - email, ref DRP 10 4779, as the "hook" to supplement software
931309 - programming enhancements, explained above, in attracting project
931310 - sponsors, set as a priority objective on 000601. ref SDS 46 0852
931311 - ..
931312 - Hypermail, adding linkability and citability are current
931313 - development focus, per Doug at the meeting on 000601. ref SDS 46 2760
931314 -
931315 -       [...below, Eugene sets priority for meeting next week to develop
931316 -       use cases analysis of email prototype. ref SDS 0 4933
931317 -
931318 -       [On 000615 progress getting Wiki set up. ref SDS 54 2760 and,
931319 -       ref SDS 54 3729
931320 -
931321 -     a.  Does this require having code for an email program to modify
931322 -         and/or enhance the features identified today for software
931323 -         programming, per above, ref SDS 0 7238, or is software
931324 -         development a separate task?
931326 -          ..
931327 -     b.  Do features for software programming integrate well with code
931328 -         for an email program?
931329 -         ..
931330 -     c.  Do we have email code, or does it have to be created by
931331 -         someone from scratch?
931333 -          ..
931334 -     d.  Who is asisgned to perform this work, to organize it, acquire
931335 -         tools and resources needed to perform the work, to review and
931336 -         approve?
931337 - ..
931338 - Doug reported having contacted Jeff Conklin, an old friend and
931339 - colleague, who recently came up with a way to do back link management.
931340 - He formed a startup, but it was not successful.
931342 -  ..
931343 - Doug will meet with Conklin about backlink management, while in D.C.
931344 - ref DRP 10 0589
931345 -
931346 -     What were results of meeting, and progress on defining
931347 -     objectives, application of "back link" management?
931348 -
931349 -   [On 000614 Eric Armstrong developed specification for back links to
931350 -   support requirements for the CDR program. ref SDS 53 3826
931352 -    ..
931353 -   [On 010420 Jack Park submitted paper Jef Conklin submitted on
931354 -   organizational memory. ref SDS 63 474G
931356 -    ..
931357 -   [On 010122 BrowseUp demonstrated what may be a form of back links.
931358 -   ref SDS 61 FT9W
931360 -    ..
931361 -   [On 011105 Jeff reported that SDS records support organizational
931362 -   memory using links. ref SDS 64 4S6H
931364 -    ..
931365 -   [On 020722 Gary Johnson suggests considering back links for SDS.
931366 -   ref SDS 65 OZ3M
931367 -
931368 -
931369 -
931370 -
931371 -
931372 -
931373 -
9314 -

SUBJECTS
Development Separate Forum from Objectives and Needs to Solve World P
Email Separate Forum for Development from Discussion World Problems
Email Forum Develop OHS DKR
Email for Development on Source Forge, Eugene, 000608

A006 -
A00701 -  ..
A00702 - Separate Mailing List on Development of OHS, Possibly SourceForge
A00703 -
A00704 - Follow up ref SDS 37 4971.
A00705 -
A00706 - Eugene suggested starting a separate mailing list focused solely on
A00707 - the development of OHS.  All in agreement, per Eugene's planning in a
A00708 - letter on 000516. ref SDS 37 4971  The list will either be on
A00709 - bootstrap.org (some lists are already there and are not being used) or
A00710 - on SourceForge.  Doug is high on using SourceForge as a development
A00711 - platform.
A00713 -  ..
A00714 - Eugene will set up a project page on SourceForge. ref DRP 10 5580
A00715 -
A00716 -       [On 000616 received minutes of meeting from Su-Ling Yee.
A00717 -       ref SDS 55 0001
A00718 -
A00719 -       [On 010405 Jack Park using SourceForge for Nexist OHS project.
A00720 -       ref SDS 62 A13H
A00721 - ..
A00722 - The project record provides work product that helps establish
A00723 - ability to perform, and something to test and demonstrate project
A00724 - tools, per above. ref SDS 0 6036
A00725 -
A00726 -     [On 000615 progress on ZWIKI may support this objective.
A00727 -
A00728 -
A00729 -
A00730 -
A00731 -
A00732 -
A008 -

SUBJECTS
Remote Staff Participation
Video Conferencing
Video, Audio Broadcast SRI Meetings
Video Audio Broadcast Meetings at SRI

A406 -
A40701 -  ..
A40702 - Video Conferencing, Audio Broadcasting DKR Meetings at SRI
A40703 -
A40704 - Eugene asked the group about the possibility of video conferencing or
A40705 - audio broadcasting project meetings so others who cannot attend can
A40706 - participate, suggested in his letter on 000516. ref SDS 37 2580
A40707 -
A40708 -     Another helpful resource is to get the record of communication to
A40709 -     compliment "intelligence" now being developed for meetings at SRI,
A40710 -     for example the meeting at Sun, per above. ref SDS 0 0752
A40712 -  ..
A40713 - On 000324 methods of involving remote contributors was considered.
A40714 - ref SDS 6 2563
A40715 - ..
A40716 - Pat said that the room we use is wired, and so we can
A40717 - potentially, set that up.
A40719 -  ..
A40720 - Eugene suggested tabling the issue until it became higher priority.
A40721 - ref DRP 10 1716
A40722 -
A40723 -        [On 000615 video conferencing and collaboration reviewed again.
A40724 -        ref SDS 54 5094
A40725 -
A40726 -     Analysis needed on evaluating priority.  The team has a lot of
A40727 -     help around the world, who could be marshalled to review both the
A40728 -     technology, and advantages and disadvantages toward evaluating
A40729 -     priority.
A40731 -      ..
A40732 -     Team needs method of making assignments in order to engage
A40733 -     personnel and expertise.
A40734 -
A40735 -
A40736 -
A40737 -
A40738 -
A40739 -
A408 -

SUBJECTS
Sun Microsystems Donated Server Space
Sponsor Outreach, Support, 000324
Web Site Server Vendor
Engelbart, Doug

AC06 -
AC0701 -  ..
AC0702 - Server Space for DKR Donated by Sun Microsystems
AC0703 -
AC0704 - Follow up ref SDS 46 5962, ref SDS 39 5962.
AC0705 -
AC0706 - No report of progress using server donated by Sun, per Eric's letter
AC0707 - on 00042, ref SDS 16 0001
AC0708 -
AC0709 -
AC0710 -
AC0711 -
AC0712 -
AC08 -
AC09 -    Time Milg Emply T  Bill Function  Special Subject/File

SUBJECTS
Property Rights in Knowledge Organization
Commercial Viability
Ownership Investment Risk
Development Investment Risk
Open Source Evaluation
SRI Not Convinced Open Source Best Strategy
Engelbart Convinced Open Source Best Strategy
Study Needed Demonstrate Open Source Best Strategy, 000601
Open Source Study Develop Facts on Viability, Doug
Open Source Other OHS/DKR Type Projects, 000601, Doug
Open Source Study Viability OHS/DKR, Engelbart, Doug, 000601
Management Cannot Make Assignments
Authority, Leadership, Project Management
Open Source Similar Empowerment, Not Authority, No Responsibility
Accountability Essential Needs Authority, Open Source, Empowerment, D

AV17 -
AV1801 -  ..
AV1802 - Legal Issues Arising from Open Source and Sponsor Support
AV1803 -
AV1804 - Follow up ref SDS 46 3055, ref SDS 39 3055.
AV1805 -
AV1806 - There was no discussion on getting a license or other standing
AV1807 - required to operate, noted at the meeting on 000330, ref SDS 7 3995,
AV1808 - possibly reflecting SRI will provide organizational platform, reported
AV1809 - 000420, ref SDS 15 6630, and Lee Iverson assigned full-time by SRI
AV1810 - 000504. ref SDS 28 7743
AV1812 -  ..
AV1813 - There was no discussion about licensing issues discussed on 000324,
AV1814 - ref SDS 6 3055, nor of submission on 000421, by Eric Armstrong of
AV1815 - license ideas ref SDS 16 3055, nor of Paul Fernhout's submission on
AV1816 - 000513 proposing new ideas on licensing. ref SDS 35 0001
AV1817 - ..
AV1818 - Project team agreed today to commit to a license by July 6.
AV1820 -  ..
AV1821 - Eugene will submit licensing issues that require consideration in
AV1822 - order to make a commitment, before the next meeting. ref DRP 10 4484
AV1823 -
AV1824 -     [On 000615 submission of license issue deferred another week.
AV1825 -     ref SDS 54 3195
AV1826 -
AV1827 -     [On 000802 open source license idea proposed. ref SDS 58 0001
AV1829 -  ..
AV1830 - Need to address issues on open source licensing....
AV1831 -
AV1832 -    1.  Legal analysis of open source issues, per Paul Fernhout's
AV1833 -        letter on 000203, ref SDS 5 0001, and issues cited previously
AV1834 -        on 000201. ref SDS 4 3286
AV1835 -        ..
AV1836 -    2.  Tax standing issue for obtaining grant funding.
AV1838 -         ..
AV1839 -    3.  Open Source scope.
AV1841 -         ..
AV1842 -    4.  SRI, or other sponsor requirements.
AV1844 -         ..
AV1845 -    5.  Authority of current group to make a commitment on a legal
AV1846 -        issue that would obligate any future sponsor?
AV1848 -         ..
AV1849 -        What effect will a "commitment" have?
AV1851 -         ..
AV1852 -        Team might issue a "Sense of the Project" memoranda to assure
AV1853 -        others that the current group predicates participaation on
AV1854 -        certain terms and conditions.
AV1856 -      ..
AV1857 -     [On 000802 license proposal does not address issues. ref SDS 58
AV1858 -     0001
AV1859 -
AV1861 -     ..
AV1862 -    Open Source Evidence Showing Viability of Development Strategy
AV1863 -    Cost Benefits Open Source Need Study
AV1864 -    Management Assignments Difficult to Make under Open Source
AV1865 -
AV1866 -    Follow up ref SDS 46 1976.
AV1867 -
AV1868 -    No discussion of study evaluating open source strategy for OHS/DKR
AV1869 -    requested by Doug Engelbart during meeting at SRI on 000601.
AV1870 -    ref SDS 46 1976
AV1871 -
AV1872 -       [On 000615 Eugene reported he is preparing a study.
AV1873 -
AV1874 -
AV1875 -
AV1876 -
AV1877 -
AV1878 -
AV19 -

SUBJECTS
Knowledge Define, Distinguish Data, Information
Collective IQ
Lessons Learned, Cass Studies Root Cause Analysis
Purpose DKR

AZ06 -
AZ0701 -  ..
AZ0702 - Project Objective to Produce DKR Capability
AZ0703 -
AZ0704 - Follow up ref SDS 46 2808, ref SDS 39 2808.
AZ0705 -
AZ0707 -     ..
AZ0708 -    Knowledge Management Definition
AZ0709 -
AZ0710 -    Follow up ref SDS 46 5555, ref SDS 39 5555.
AZ0711 -
AZ0712 -    There was no discussion of new information received at meeting on
AZ0713 -    000518 showing that Knowledge Management provides unique path to
AZ0714 -    develop a DKR that justifies funding, and that Doug's seed team may
AZ0715 -    be uniquely qualified to perform the work, responding to Marcello's
AZ0716 -    explanation above. ref SDS 46 1007
AZ0718 -     ..
AZ0719 -    There was no discussion of Eric Armstrong's explanation on 000423
AZ0720 -    that the purpose of the DKR is to augment human intelligence,
AZ0721 -    reviewed recently on 000517. ref SDS 38 0585
AZ0722 -    ..
AZ0723 -    There was no discussion of Lee Iverson's progress getting
AZ0724 -    Zope set up on the bootstrap.org website, reported on 000518,
AZ0725 -    ref SDS 39 3944, to strengthen project correspondence, so the team
AZ0726 -    can gain experience with a connected environment, as recommended on
AZ0727 -    000505 to support development of project requirements specs.
AZ0728 -
AZ0729 -        [On 000606 submitted project summary ideas based on project
AZ0730 -        record. ref SDS 51 0001
AZ0731 -
AZ0732 -
AZ0733 -
AZ08 -

SUBJECTS
Glossary, Engelbart, Doug, 000518

B303 -
B30401 -  ..
B30402 - Glossary Establishes DKR Culture, Supports Architecture for KM
B30403 -
B30404 - Follow up ref SDS 46 5783, ref SDS 39 3286.
B30405 -
B30406 - Joe has put together an intitial glossary at...
B30407 -
B30408 -     http://www.hypermultimedia.com/DKR/glossary.htm.
B30410 -  ..
B30411 - Email him terms, corrections, suggestions, at altintdev@webtv.com.
B30412 - ref DRP 10 0750
B30413 -
B30414 -    The glossary has some attribution, but needs more especially to
B30415 -    professional sources.
B30416 -
B30417 -    "Knowledge" needs more work, since that seems to be a major
B30418 -    conceptual hurdle, per letter from Bill Bearden received on 000602,
B30419 -    ref SDS 49 4148, and letter from Eric Armstrong on 000503.
B30420 -    ref SDS 26 5033
B30421 -    ..
B30422 -    There was no discussion of organization, correlation to
B30423 -    project architecture, design.
B30424 -
B30425 -
B30426 -
B30427 -
B30428 -
B30429 -
B305 -

SUBJECTS
OHS Open Hyperdocument System
OHS Editor XML, Requirements, Specs
Engineering Management
Atomic Data Structures, 000423
Specification
Collaborative Document System Email Core Capability DKR, Eric, 000505
DKR Data Structures, 000423

BF09 -
BF1001 -     ..
BF1002 -    Editor Based on XML Initial Project Deliverable
BF1003 -    Collaborative Document System and OHS Supported by Editor
BF1004 -
BF1005 -    Follow up ref SDS 46 5880, ref SDS 39 5880.
BF1006 -
BF1007 -    No record of project review for specs v0.6, ref DRP 6 0001, issued
BF1008 -    on 000508, ref SDS 30 0782, analysed initially on 000505.
BF1009 -    ref SDS 29 0782
BF1011 -     ..
BF1012 -    On 000601 Eric issued v0.7. ref SDS 47 0001
BF1014 -     ..
BF1015 -    On 000605 Eric issued v0.8. ref SDS 50 0001
BF1017 -     ..
BF1018 -    No discussion on approval, review schedule....
BF1019 -    ..
BF1020 -    CDS specs seems to be part of OHS which Doug has given high
BF1021 -    vector priority. ref SDS 0 3855
BF1022 -
BF1023 -          [On 000615 consideration given to changing name of CDS to
BF1024 -          OHS. ref SDS 54 2808
BF1025 -
BF1026 -       Use case review planned for meeting on 000615, see below, to
BF1027 -       apply project requirements. ref SDS 0 4933
BF1028 -
BF1030 -     ..
BF1031 -    Atomic Data Structures Derive from Fundamental Information Unit
BF1032 -    Fundamental Information Unit Focuses DKR Design Effort
BF1033 -
BF1034 -    Follow up ref SDS 46 4004, ref SDS 39 4004.
BF1035 -
BF1036 -    No evident discussion today of Joe Williams comprehensive
BF1037 -    presentation on 000420 of DKR and OHS framework. ref SDS 15 4004
BF1039 -     ..
BF1040 -    No discussion of atomic data structures submitted by Eric on
BF1041 -    000423. ref SDS 19 4977
BF1043 -     ..
BF1044 -    No discussion of Paul Fernhout's submission on 000524 about
BF1045 -    Pointrel Data Repository based on Python. ref SDS 40 0783
BF1046 -    ..
BF1047 -    Not enough time to get data structures for Augment, per
BF1048 -    above. ref SDS 0 3740
BF1049 -
BF1050 -
BF1051 -
BF1052 -
BF1053 -
BF11 -

SUBJECTS
Augment, Doug Engelbart's System at SRI Beginning in 1960s
Augment Human Capabilities
Engelbart, Doug
Augment Presentation, Engelbart, Iverson, Williams, Yee, 000420

BK06 -
BK0701 -  ..
BK0702 - Augment Demonstration Sets Design Objectives
BK0703 -
BK0704 - Follow up ref SDS 46 5992, ref SDS 39 5992.
BK0705 -
BK0706 - Background
BK0707 -
BK0708 -    On 000601 Eric asked for a description of Augment data structures
BK0709 -    to expedite requirements for email system, ref SDS 46 5992, set
BK0710 -    above, as project top priority, ref SDS 0 2760, as a predicate or
BK0711 -    concurrent with prototype software multipe views. ref SDS 0 7238
BK0713 -     ..
BK0714 -    Augment can expedite developing work product for funding, per
BK0715 -    Marcello Hoffman's report on 000601, ref SDS 46 3824, and Doug's
BK0716 -    call for a prototype to demonstrate project objectives. ref SDS 0
BK0717 -    7238
BK0719 -     ..
BK0720 -    Earlier on 000330 Marcello reported that his research shows nobody
BK0721 -    has developed a Knowledge Management capability, and that Doug has
BK0722 -    a strong solution in Augment, which gives the DKR team an
BK0723 -    advantage. ref SDS 7 0713 and ref SDS 7 2075
BK0725 -     ..
BK0726 -    On 000420 vector set to demonstrate Augment. ref SDS 15 5922
BK0728 -     ..
BK0729 -    On 000426 Jack Park reported that Augment sets stage for DKR
BK0730 -    project, SDS on the Internet provides proof of concept for some
BK0731 -    aspects of a DKR. ref SDS 21 3315
BK0732 -
BK0734 -  ..
BK0735 - Demonstration...
BK0737 -  ..
BK0738 - Doug brought in his personal computer so that he could demonstrate
BK0739 - Augment. ref DRP 10 2352  He showed the...
BK0740 -
BK0741 -                command set,
BK0742 -                context-completion,
BK0743 -                help,
BK0744 -                linking,
BK0745 -                multiple views,
BK0746 -                journal,
BK0747 -                editing capabilities,
BK0748 -                extensibility,
BK0749 -                etc.
BK0751 -  ..
BK0752 - Augment demonstration was "very cool." ref DRP 10 6480
BK0754 -  ..
BK0755 - Augment NLS resulted from Doug's proposal in 1962, which included
BK0756 - plans for 3x5 card categorizing. ref SDS 2 UD7F  Doug's 1992 paper on
BK0757 - Groupware discussed subject indexing. ref SDS 2 EO6M
BK0759 -  ..
BK0760 - Doug showed an efficient data entry capability using a compact
BK0761 - keyboard that expedited the work by assiging functions to key
BK0762 - combinations.
BK0763 -
BK0764 -      [On 001010 Sheldon developing lense technology that may enable a
BK0765 -      mouse to support some Augment efficiencies. ref SDS 60 G8R3
BK0767 -  ..
BK0768 - The demonstration was too fast to enable reporting today on scope and
BK0769 - usefulness of features, per Marcello's report on 000601. ref SDS 46
BK0770 - 3824
BK0772 -  ..
BK0773 - Need write up to evaluate viability of using Augment to attract
BK0774 - funding by demoing KM capability, per above. ref SDS 0 6821
BK0776 -  ..
BK0777 - There was not enough time to work on data structures requested by Eric
BK0778 - on 000601. ref SDS 46 0672
BK0779 -
BK0780 -        [On 000615 viewing of Augment demo tape will be scheduled at
BK0781 -        SRI. ref SDS 54 9626
BK0782 -
BK0783 -        [On 000622 Eric Armstrong reported on Augment NLS capabilities
BK0784 -        from Doug's demonstration. ref SDS 56 5720
BK0785 -
BK0786 -
BK0787 -
BK0788 -
BK0789 -
BK08 -

SUBJECTS
Use Case Method Define Requirement, 00000000
Software Programming Program, Use Case Analysis, 000406
Use Case Email Prototype, Eugene, 000608
Use Case Prototype Email Addressability, Eugene, 000608

BR06 -
BR0701 -  ..
BR0702 - Use Case Methods for Software Design
BR0703 -
BR0704 - Follow up ref SDS 46 4933, ref SDS 39 4933.
BR0705 -
BR0706 - No discussion of Eugene Kim's comprehensive submission on 000504
BR0707 - suggesting the scope of OHS, and detailing specific use cases that
BR0708 - improve literacy, supported by Jack Park. ref SDS 27 0784
BR0710 -  ..
BR0711 - Next week the team will go through use cases for prototyping DKR,
BR0712 - ref DRP 10 3186, per discussion on email priority ref SDS 0 2760
BR0713 - and/or software programming multiple views prototype requested by
BR0714 - Doug, per above. ref SDS 0 4810
BR0715 -
BR0716 -     When do use cases correlate with project requirements developed by
BR0717 -     Eric, reviewed on 000505, ref SDS 29 0001, updated on 000601,
BR0718 -     ref SDS 47 0782 and again on 000605. ref SDS 50 0782
BR0719 - ..
BR0720 - John talks about WebMinds as a use case. ref DRP 10 6536
BR0721 -
BR0722 -
BR0723 -
BR0724 -
BR0725 -
BR0726 -
BR0727 -
BR08 -

SUBJECTS
CODIAK Intelligence Capabilities
Guide to Running Nics, 000427

BW04 -
BW0501 -  ..
BW0502 - Guide to Running NICs Gathers Intelligence, Provides Feedback
BW0503 - Communication Manager Proposed to Compliment Tools for DKR
BW0504 -
BW0505 - Follow up ref SDS 46 3995, ref SDS 39 3995.
BW0506 -
BW0507 - Nothing has been submitted responding to the request on 000428 for
BW0508 - more information on the Guide to Running NICs, ref DRP 3 3000,
BW0509 - proposed at the meeting on 000427. ref SDS 23 2867
BW0510 - ..
BW0511 - No record of work product showing contradictions and prodding of
BW0512 - contributors to grow knowledge repository's capabilities as we use it,
BW0513 - also proposed on 000427. ref SDS 23 2867
BW0514 -
BW0515 -    [On 000613 received good set of notes of the meeting today, but no
BW0516 -    context, no analysis of contraditions, no prodding, etc., that
BW0517 -    constitutes knowledge management. ref SDS 52 0001
BW0518 -
BW0519 -
BW0520 -
BW0521 -
BW0522 -
BW0523 -
BW06 -

SUBJECTS
WBI Transcoding Vector
WBI 3 Tier Server Architecture, 000427
DirectDom, JDOM Processors of XML DKR, 000427
Park, Jack
WBI Vector Presentation, Engelbart, 000420
Iverson, Lee
Source Development System (SDS) Transcoding, 000511
SDS Source Development System Transcoding, 000511

C810 -
C81101 -  ..
C81102 - Current Proposal for DKR Transcoding - Complex Process
C81103 - Architecture - Three-Tier Server for WBI Implementation
C81104 -
C81105 - Follow up ref SDS 46 4674, ref SDS 39 4674.
C81106 -
C81107 - No discussion at the meeting today.
C81108 -
C81110 -     ..
C81111 -    Fundamental Issues of DKR Project Focused by DOM
C81112 -    DOM (Document Object Model) Uses XML for Doc Management
C81113 -
C81114 -    Follow up ref SDS 46 3640, ref SDS 39 3640.
C81115 -
C81116 -    No discussion on DOM and DDOM issue; nor, of W3C being ineffective
C81117 -    for data base; Python and Java supporting DOM for data base,
C81118 -    reported on 000504. ref SDS 28 3994
C81120 -     ..
C81121 -    W3C has talked about getting Doug more involved, possibly as a
C81122 -    fellow. Doug thinks if we move into the right place in W3C, it
C81123 -    would be a terrific community.  He knows Tim Berners-Lee well
C81124 -    enough that when we are ready he will approach him. ref DRP 10 1598
C81125 -       ..
C81126 -       On 000429 Joe Williams proposed
C81127 -
C81129 -     ..
C81130 -    Augment Data can be Transcoded
C81131 -
C81132 -    Follow up ref SDS 46 4558, ref SDS 39 4558.
C81133 -
C81134 -    Transcoding may have been shown in the demonstration of Augment
C81135 -    today, per above, but not reported. ref SDS 0 4180
C81136 -
C81138 -     ..
C81139 -    Gnutella Eliminates Browser/Server Distinction
C81140 -
C81141 -    Follow up ref SDS 46 4868, ref SDS 39 4868.
C81142 -
C81143 -    No discussion on Gnutella issue.
C81144 -
C81145 -
C81146 -
C812 -

SUBJECTS
Technology Review, Lee, 000525
Starter Technologies Using Develops Experience to Create KM

CA04 -
CA0501 -     ..
CA0502 -    Evalute Starter Technologies, Volunteers
CA0503 -
CA0504 -    Follow up ref SDS 46 4084, ref SDS 41 4084.
CA0505 -
CA0506 -    No discussion of evaluations for starter technologies from action
CA0507 -    action item set by Lee Iversion at meeting on 000525. ref SDS 41
CA0508 -    4084
CA0510 -     ..
CA0511 -    No discussion of using starter technologies to demonstrate "hooks"
CA0512 -    and ability to perform cited by Marcello, per above. ref SDS 0 1007
CA0513 -
CA0514 -
CA0515 -
CA0516 -
CA0517 -
CA0518 -
CA0519 -
CA06 -