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S U M M A R Y


DIARY: January 22, 2001 03:45 PM Monday; Rod Welch

Meeting on Bootstrap OHS/DKR project at SRI.

1...Summary/Objective
2...Hyperscope Requirements Supported by BrowseUp, Improves Collaboration
3...BrowseUp Helps Learn KM by Improving Handling of Daily Information
4...Doug's Goal to Improve Competence Aided by BrowseUp Linking Features
.....Open Source Collaboration Can Advance Common Objectives
5...Links Managed by Priority and Filtering to Avoid Confusion
6...Backlinks Present Issues about Changing Original Source Material
7...Experience Using BrowseUp will Disclose Productivity Advantages

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1...Need an example to illustrate problems these features seek to solve,
2...Need example to explain how backlinking strengthens collaboration,
3...Team needs experience using BrowseUp and report on effectiveness, as

CONTACTS 
0201 - SRI International                    650 326 6200
020101 - Mr. Pat Lincoln; Director  =650 859 5454
020102 - Lincoln@csl.sri.com
020103 - Computer Science Laboratory
0202 - Bootstrap Institute                  510 713 3550
020201 - Mr. Douglas C. Engelbart, Ph.D.
020202 - doug@bootstrap.org
0203 - Deneen Consulting                    925 229 1858
020301 - Mr. John Deneen
020302 - jjdeneen@ricochet.net
0204 - Eugene Eric Kim                      650 330 1381
020401 - Mr. Eugene Eric Kim
020402 - eekim@eekim.com

SUBJECTS
Hyperscope Linking Presentation by Engineer from Israel
SRI Hyperscope Linking Without Anchors
Linking by Point and Click ie Cut and Paste
Links Added to Original Doc Proposed SRI Team on 000622, 000623
Links Without Anchors to Original Sources on Web, 010119, Doug Engelb
Priority to Keep Orientation, Need Map
BrowseUp Supports Hyperscope Objective to Link Files on Internet
DKR Email Starter Technologies, 000504
Links Complex Shocking Avoid Power Microcosm Knowledge
Back Link Management
Open Source Development for Unspecified Compelling Reasons
Hyperscope Aided by BrowseUp Supports Bidirectional Linking
SRI Presentation on Linking Capability

2715 -    ..
2716 - Summary/Objective
2717 -
271701 - Follow up ref SDS 15 945L, ref SDS 10 E9G2.
271702 -
271703 - BrowseUp was demonstrated for accomplishing Hyperscope objectives.  It
271704 - creates links on the Internet quickly and easily, which could help
271705 - people transition from IT to KM by linking to relevant information.
271706 - Alon gave an excellent presentation showing BrowseUp improves
271707 - collaboration, which is a major goal of the OHS/DKR project.  BrowseUp
271708 - needs a larger base of experience to establish productivity gains can
271709 - be realized using this method. ref SDS 0 NN5G
271710 -
271711 - Submitted ref DIT 1 0001 to the team.
271712 -
271713 -    [On 010123 Adam Cheyer reported favorable results reviewing
271714 -    BrowseUp on the Internet.
271715 -
271716 -    [On 010124 Jack Park says BrowseUp powerful program, explains
271717 -    technical perspective based on a proxy server, and discusses
271718 -    application issues that arise from bidirectional linking.
271719 -    ref SDS 16 0001
271720 -
271721 -    [On 010124 Eric Armstrong recalls OHS/DKR team considered a design
271722 -    based on using a proxy server. ref SDS 16 UK5G
271723 -
271724 -    [On 010125 Eugene Kim sets out understanding that BrowseUp works
271725 -    using a link server, ref SDS 17 0001, and recommends follow up
271726 -    steps. ref SDS 17 C2WL
271727 -
271728 -    [On 010127 John Deneen setting up BrowseUp on Doug's computer, may
271729 -    need proxy server. ref SDS 18 567F
271730 -
271731 -    [On 010128 Alon plans beta testing BrowseUp at SRI. ref SDS 19 0001
271732 -
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271736 -
271737 -
271738 -
2718 -
2719 -
2720 - Progress
2721 -
272101 -  ..
272102 - Hyperscope Requirements Supported by BrowseUp, Improves Collaboration
272103 -
272104 - Follow up ref SDS 15 945L.
272105 -
272106 - Doug introduced Alon Schwarz (Alon@BrowseUp.com), President, CEO and
272107 - Cofounder of "BrowseUp," an Israeli startup.  Jim Spohrer urged the
272108 - OHS/DKR team to see this exciting new technology, as set out in Doug's
272109 - letter on 010119. ref DRP 1 0001
272110 -
272111 - Grant Bowman called in from Germany to hear the presentation.
272112 -
272113 - Alon explained his vision and system requirements for BrowseUp to
272114 - improve collaboration.  Alon's colleague at the meeting today is the
272115 - engineer who developed BrowseUp.
272116 - ..
272117 - The presentation showed that BrowseUp makes it fast and easy to
272118 - improve collaboration by creating links on the Internet with an
272119 - intermediate record of anchors and text strings, as Doug related on
272120 - 010119. ref SDS 15 AT7K  Alon showed today that links can be created
272121 - to and from an original source.
272122 -
272123 -     See below on back-links. ref SDS 0 GHR2
272124 -
272125 -     [On 010124 Jack Park explains technical process BrowseUp uses to
272126 -     create links, similar to "transclusion" developed by Ted Nelson in
272127 -     Xanadu. ref SDS 16 007P
272128 -
272129 -     [On 010131 Eugene Kim submitted references that describe the main
272130 -     problem to solve for developing the OHS is the lack of simple,
272131 -     standard, machine-readable ways for associating related
272132 -     information. ref SDS 20 SW4O
272133 -
272134 -     [On 010424 OHS/DKR project yielded program called Plink to add
272135 -     anchors to facilitate linking. ref SDS 23 K66N
272136 - ..
272137 - BrowseUp requires Microsoft's Internet Explorer, and runs on
272138 - most operating systems. Microsoft ME os may not support BrowseUp.
272139 - Alon seemed to indicate that the Netscape browser is, also, not
272140 - supported. There was mention, possibly by Lee Iverson, that Netscape
272141 - version 6 has a lot of problems, so lack of support by BrowseUp may
272142 - not be significant.
272143 -
272144 -     [On 010127 Doug wants Hyperscope without ties to Microsoft.
272145 -     ref SDS 18 ZS5K
272146 -
272147 -     [On 010325 Jack Park reports challenges presented by Microsoft ME
272148 -     in creating an OHS. ref SDS 22 7Q6K
272149 - ..
272150 - Alon seemed to indicate that BrowseUp can be downloaded from the
272151 - web to experiment with the technology.
272152 -
272153 - Since Hyperscope is the launching step toward bootstrapping the OHS
272154 - and DKR capabilities, BrowseUp could expedite progress on project
272155 - objectives to improve competence, reviewed on 001114 in connection
272156 - with Doug's award for the National Medal of Technology. ref SDS 11
272157 - SU3L
272158 -
272159 -
272160 -  ..
272161 - BrowseUp Helps Learn KM by Improving Handling of Daily Information
272162 - Doug's Goal to Improve Competence Aided by BrowseUp Linking Features
272163 -
272164 - BrowseUp is a major step toward Hyperscope linking requirements, which
272165 - Doug proposed in the OHS Launch Plan on 001017. ref SDS 10 A5U6
272166 -
272167 -     BrowseUp can help the OHS/DKR team link to relevant information in
272168 -     the record, which Doug requested on 001025. ref SDS 10 00VU  It is
272169 -     a solid program that adds to mainstream IT tools recommended by
272170 -     Eugene Kim on 001126 for learning KM. ref SDS 12 QW8I  BrowseUp
272171 -     solves concern that linking takes too much time, cited by Grant
272172 -     Bowman, also, on 001126. ref SDS 12 X8PW
272173 -
272174 -        [On 010125 Eugene Kim supports using BrowseUp for the team to
272175 -        learn about linking requirements. ref SDS 17 C2WL
272176 -
272177 -        [On 010127 John Deneen installing BrowseUp on Doug's computer,
272178 -        reports may need proxy server. ref SDS 18 567F
272179 -
272180 -        [On 010128 Alon plans beta testing BrowseUp at SRI. ref SDS 19
272181 -        0001
272182 -
272183 -        [On 010131 Eugene Kim submitted references that describe the
272184 -        main problem to solve for developing the OHS is the lack of
272185 -        simple, standard, machine-readable ways for associating related
272186 -        information. ref SDS 20 SW4O
272187 -
272188 -
272189 -      ..
272190 -     Open Source Collaboration Can Advance Common Objectives
272191 -
272192 -     BrowseUp seems to be planned as a proprietary venture.  Doug
272193 -     related consideration for applying this capability to advance Open
272194 -     Source goals of OHS/DKR, set out in the Launch Plan on 001025.
272195 -     ref SDS 10 ADK1
272196 -
272197 -         [On 010125 Eugene Kim supports collaboration with BrowseUp to
272198 -         achieve Open Source objectives. ref SDS 17 FS4J
272199 -
272200 -         [On 010127 collaboration with BrowseUp under consideration.
272201 -         ref SDS 18 4EWC
272202 -
272203 -         [On 010128 Alon plans beta testing BrowseUp at SRI. ref SDS 19
272204 -         0001
272205 -
272206 -  ..
272207 - Alon tried linking to the record on 001220 honoring Doug for winning
272208 - the award for the National Medal of Technology, ref SDS 14 0001, to
272209 - Doug's BI web site showing the medal Doug was awarded.
272210 -
272211 - There was a snag in creating this link.  Doug asked if this can occur
272212 - due to irregular HTML in the target file?  Eugene noted that the HTML
272213 - anchor in the record on 001220 may cause this difficulty.
272214 - ..
272215 - Linking to other files was accomplished quickly and easily.
272216 -
272217 - Alon explained BrowseUp tracks links forward and backward, which
272218 - aligns with OHS/DKR objectives Doug set on 000608. ref SDS 6 2760
272219 -
272220 -
272221 -  ..
272222 - Links Managed by Priority and Filtering to Avoid Confusion
272223 -
272224 - Alon noted that tracking a lot of links could cause confusion due to
272225 - complexity.  This aligns with Eric Armstrong's planning for OHS
272226 - requirements on 000125, warning that a connected environment "boggles
272227 - the mind." ref SDS 2 3867  More recently on 001219 Paul Fernhout
272228 - worried that expanding complexity is a bigger threat than running out
272229 - of oil. ref SDS 13 9I6K  Earlier on 000601 Paul reported SDS links are
272230 - confusing. ref SDS 4 0894  On 000824 Eric is not a big fan of links to
272231 - the archives. ref SDS 7 7O9I
272232 -
272233 - Doug called out back-link management for the OHS Launch plan submitted
272234 - on 001025. ref SDS 10 6864  See also "Back Links" below. ref SDS 0
272235 - GHR2
272236 - ..
272237 - BrowseUp has several procedures to avoid confusion by managing
272238 - links.
272239 -
272240 -      1.  Priority shows most frequently used links.
272241 -
272242 -          On 990525 this feature was expected to be useful. ref SDS 1
272243 -          0558
272244 -
272245 -          [On 010125 Eugene Kim cites this feature as a quality
272246 -          attribute. ref SDS 17 PT6J
272247 -
272248 -      2.  Filters show links for a specified group.
272249 -
272250 -   Need an example to illustrate problems these features seek to solve,
272251 -   and how BrowseUp solution improves handling the complexity caused by
272252 -   a lot of links.
272253 -
272254 -
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SUBJECTS
Links Added to Other People's Internet Property Illegal, BrowsUp, 010
Objections Transcoding, IBM's WBI, 000428
Links Illegal Added to Someone's Property on Internet, BrowseUp, 0101
Boggle Mind Prefer Avoid Responsibility Online Links
Links Reveal Complexity Knowledge Prefer Ignorance, Avoid Responsibli
Links Illegal Added to Someone's Property on Internet, BrowseUp, 0101

3509 -
350901 -  ..
350902 - Backlinks Present Issues about Changing Original Source Material
350903 -
350904 - Alon's demonstration seemed to show that BrowseUp technology enables
350905 - anyone to add links from an original source on the Internet produced
350906 - by someone else, to another source file on the Internet, in addition
350907 - to merely linking to relevant parts of an original work.  Doug's call
350908 - for addressability on 000405 supports communication and understanding,
350909 - which are aided by linking to another person's record, similar to
350910 - saying you can visit so and so at the following address, and
350911 - incidentally, notice the garden in left side of the yard.  Doug called
350912 - out back-link management in the OHS Launch Plan on 001025. ref SDS 10
350913 - 6864
350914 -
350915 -       [On 010125 Eugene Kim reports BrowseUp supports links that are
350916 -       granular and bidirectional. ref SDS 17 HV5H
350917 - ..
350918 - "Backlinking" seems to pose the prospect of not merely pointing
350919 - to a location for information, but changing the location by putting a
350920 - pointer to somewhere that is not authorized by the owner, like putting
350921 - up a sign in someone's yard.
350922 -
350923 -    There was no discussion today about implications that may flow from
350924 -    adding links to other people's work, without permission of the
350925 -    author.
350926 -
350927 -       [On 010124 pandora's box of risks from third party linking,
350928 -       ref SDS 16 00FO, including legal implications. ref SDS 16 00BS
350929 -
350930 -       [On 010125 Eugene Kim notes social consequences. ref SDS 17 A0FO
350931 -
350932 -    Need example to explain how backlinking strengthens collaboration,
350933 -    or some other useful purpose.
350934 -
350935 -       [On 010128 Alon plans beta testing BrowseUp at SRI. ref SDS 19
350936 -       0001
350937 -
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SUBJECTS
Pilot Test Starter Technologies DKR/OHS, 000504
Transcoding, IBM's WBI, 000324
Complexity Causes Mistakes, Limited Time, Span of Attention, Needs Co
Complexity Makes KM High Tech Tourism Cannot Produce Useful Technolog
High Tech Tourism KM Deliverables Must Improve Daily Work, Marcello H
BrowseUp Needs to Add Value to Handling Daily Working Information
Transclusion View in BrowseUp Showing Links Documents Side by Side Wo
BrowseUp Presented at SRI for Linking, No Work Product

4811 -
481101 -  ..
481102 - Experience Using BrowseUp will Disclose Productivity Advantages
481103 -
481104 - Lee Iverson asked how BrowseUp's linking capability adds value to
481105 - creating and handling daily working information, which Doug describes
481106 - as the goal of KM tools, reported on 000327? ref SDS 3 3971
481107 -
481108 - On 000601 Marcello Hoffman, SRI's leading researcher on KM, noted need
481109 - for technology to add value. ref SDS 5 1007
481110 -
481111 -    [On 010125 Eugene Kim reports that Lee Iverson indicated during the
481112 -    meeting today a Nelson-style transclusion view of links and
481113 -    documents, where documents are displayed side by side, with lines
481114 -    showing the interconnected links, would be useful. ref SDS 17 KC8H
481115 - ..
481116 - Alon said the BrowseUp team has not yet applied this method to
481117 - improve handling daily working information, because the team has been
481118 - busy developing and demonstrating how BrowseUp is used.  As a result,
481119 - there is not yet a body of work product that demonstrates the problems
481120 - of multiple links, and how BrowseUp priorities and filters help manage
481121 - complexity and avoid confusion.
481122 -
481123 - BrowseUp is looking for customers, sponsors and others to experiment
481124 - with this new linking technology, and develop experience showing how
481125 - productivity is improved by creating links on the Internet faster and
481126 - easier.
481127 -
481128 -     [On 010127 report that Doug Engelbart is installing BrowseUp to
481129 -     experiment with linking for application to OHS Hyperscope.
481130 -     ref SDS 18 567F
481131 -
481132 -     [On 010128 Alon plans beta testing BrowseUp at SRI. ref SDS 19
481133 -     0001
481134 -
481135 -     [On 010131 Eugene Kim submitted references that describe the main
481136 -     problem to solve for developing the OHS is the lack of simple,
481137 -     standard, machine-readable ways for associating related
481138 -     information, which is addressed by BrowseUp. ref SDS 20 SW4O
481139 -
481142 -  ..
481143 - BrowseUp expects to improve work by software developers, scientists
481144 - and others collaborating to get things done.  On 000927 Eric Armstrong
481145 - reported there is a huge need for this. ref SDS 8 VX5J  An example is
481146 - the NIH objective for sponsoring the OHS/DKR project, which Pat
481147 - Lincoln explained on 001017. ref SDS 9 014M
481148 -
481149 - Team needs experience using BrowseUp and report on effectiveness, as
481150 - called out on 001025 reviewing Hyperscope linking objectives in the
481151 - OHS Launch plan. ref SDS 10 BG4N
481152 -
481153 -    See analysis above on using BrowseUp to gain experience doing KM in
481154 -    order to learn KM. ref SDS 0 A84M
481155 -
481156 - No immediate assignments were made on this.
481157 -
481158 -    [On 010123 Adam Cheyer reported favorable experience using the
481159 -    BrowseUp system on the Internet.
481160 -
481161 -    [On 010125 Eugene Kim supports using BrowseUp for the team to learn
481162 -    about linking requirements. ref SDS 17 C2WL
481163 -
481164 -    [On 010127 report that Doug Engelbart is installing BrowseUp to
481165 -    experiment with linking for application to OHS Hyperscope.
481166 -    ref SDS 18 567F
481167 -
481168 -    [On 010128 Alon plans beta testing BrowseUp at SRI. ref SDS 19 0001
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