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Netscape, 4.04 W95
Profile for User 00101 Rod Welch Not Working Today Request to Retriev
C11 in Concord to Correct Problem Running Email for Profile 00101
Defragment Failed G H I Rearrange Files Investigate Buying New Comput

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1007 - Summary/Objective
1008 -
100801 - Follow up ref SDS 34 0000, ref SDS 27 0000.
100802 -
100803 - Installed Netscape 7.0 and found that some of the earlier problems
100804 - with Mozilla have been fixed.  The new version has some advantages,
100805 - but a few display problems with this version prevent using Netscape
100806 - 7.0 as a primary working tool for Com Metrics and KM. ref SDS 0 S86N
100807 - Variability of display is a challenge that threatens transformation
100808 - from Information to a culture of knowledge.  If people do not have
100809 - confidence that communiation will be consistently rendered, then they
100810 - will avoid transition to a new way of working.  For now, will stick
100811 - with Netscape 4.73 and IE. ref SDS 0 S97H
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1011 - Progress
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101201 - On 021025 evaluated the newer version of Netscape 7.0 and found that
101202 - it can be configured to run at least as well as Netscape 4.7.  At that
101203 - time Netscape 70 was installed on the c drive, so that Netscape 4.73
101204 - could remain our primary browser for email. ref SDS 34 KY15
101205 -
101206 - Today, since I have decided to keep Netscape 7 installed for awhile,
101207 - moved it to...
101208 -
101209 -                         h: 00 27
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101211 -
101212 -  ..
101213 - One advantage is that the print size can be set and held from one
101214 - session to the next for a larger size.  Actually, I discovered today
101215 - that the Edit Preferences Appearance Font menu choice can set a larger
101216 - font size for both professional and fixed fonts in Netscape 4.7, so
101217 - this is not really and advantage.
101218 -
101219 - A problem that occurred was that files for the Users wound up in a
101220 - very long directory on I: in documents and settings, which seems to be
101221 - a challenge for our system of conforming working conditions between
101222 - computers.
101223 -
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101225 - Initially wanted to install on c: per work on 021025, ref SDS 34 K66N,
101226 - because there is more room on c, but finally decided to install on h:
101227 - because that maintains our transfer opertions between computers.  If
101228 - we put some stuff on c and the same stuff in a different drive on
101229 - another computer, then we need different batch routines to conform the
101230 - computers.  This conflicts with objective to work efficiently by using
101231 - the same tools everywhere.
101232 -
101233 - However, h drive is nearly full.  Diskeeper reports there is not
101234 - enough room to defragment the drive.
101235 -
101236 - Deleted some programs we are not using on C11 like the deskscan
101237 - program for the HP Scanner, and the Exabyte tape drive which is not
101238 - working.  Moved the Novaback program to C12 because conceivably could
101239 - use it if we get a backup program on the new computer.
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101601 - Finally, got around to installing Netscape 7 after tending to the
101602 - hard disk all day.
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Netscape 7 Does Not Setup New User User Existing User Profile Using D

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110402 - User Directory Assigned to Windows Will Not Work with Pkzip
110403 -
110404 - With a lot of effort was able to set up an account...
110405 -
110406 - Netscape 7 defaults to install user profiles under Windows...
110407 -
110408 -           00 02 documents and settings
110409 -             Rod Welch
110410 -               application data
110411 -                 Mozilla
110412 -                   registry.dat
110413 -                   Profiles
110414 -                     users
110415 -                       00101
110416 -                         nnnnnnnn.slt
110417 -
110418 -  ..
110419 - Apart from the fact that we do not want to commingle software
110420 - programs, and so work to maintain separation in order to know where
110421 - things are located and manage what is installed, the directory
110422 - structure Netscape proposes using does not seem to support the
110423 - transfer methods that keep working files current when using different
110424 - computers.
110425 -
110426 - The operation for transferring files has a command...
110427 -
110428 -      z -P -a -r -t%1 hs h:\00\07\users\00101\mail\*.*
110429 -      z -P -a -t%1 hs h:\00\07\users\00101\*.*
110430 -
110431 - ...showin in batch file 01 02 t11.bat. ref OF 10 DL9G
110432 -
110433 - These command using the directory that Netscape proposes would look
110434 - like this...
110435 -
110436 -      z -P -a -r -t%1 hs i:\00\02\documents and settings\Rod Welch\application data\Mozilla\Profiles\users\00101\nnnnnnnn.slt\mail\*.*
110437 -
110438 -  ..
110439 - A long path like Netscape 7 proposes....
110440 -
110441 -    1.  Has no evident advantage to productivity nor cost savings.
110442 -
110443 -    2.  Takes a lot of time to use and increases chances of making a
110444 -        mistake.
110445 -
110446 -    3.  Pkzip returns an error message saying directory does not exist.
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110449 -  ..
110450 - Netscape 7 installation operation investigates the hard drive to
110451 - discovers existing Netscape user profiles and gives the user the
110452 - option during installation to use settings from the existing profile.
110453 -
110454 - This was selected during the trial installation on 021025, and it
110455 - appears that Netscape 7 does a good job of importing bookmarks,
110456 - existing mail received and sent and address books.
110457 -
110458 - Today, when I did the installation again, per above, ref SDS 0 OQ3K,
110459 - discovered that Netscape 7 is only able to using an existing profile
110460 - if Netscape is installed on a default directory, ref SDS 0 X67O,
110461 - rather than ask the customer where to put things.
110462 -
110463 - Since we do not want Netscape stuff mixed in with Windows programs,
110464 - after several hours of trial and error, discovered that Netscape 7
110465 - enables setting up a new User profile rather than accept the incorrect
110466 - location where Netscape 7 determines to set up the new use under
110467 - Microsoft.  This procedure enables the User to specify where to
110468 - install the user profile, however, the profile must be set up, rather
110469 - than use what is already available in Netscape 4.73.
110470 -
110471 -  ..
110472 - Using this procedure, set up an account for..
110473 -
110474 -
110475 -            f: 00 27 users 00101 nnnnnnnn.slt
110476 -
110477 - While there is no evident purpose for the nnnnnn.slt directory, it
110478 - can be use with pkzip for transferring files.
110479 -
110480 - After configuring Netscape 7 with the user profile on f per above,
110481 - investigation shows that Netscape 7 created the following in
110482 - Windows...
110483 -
110484 -           00 02 documents and settings
110485 -             Rod Welch
110486 -               application data
110487 -                 Mozilla
110488 -                   registry.dat
110489 -                   Profiles
110490 -
110491 -  ..
110492 - It is not clear if this is an operational requirement, or something
110493 - that was left over after removing Netscape 7 from the initial
110494 - installation on 021025.
110495 -
110496 -  ..
110497 - Will try moving the mozilla directory to...
110498 -
110499 -            f: 00 27 mozilla
110500 -
110501 - ...and see if Netscape will continue to recognize the existing profile
110502 - on...
110503 -
110504 -            f: 00 27 users 00101 nnnnnnnn.slt
110505 -
110506 -  ..
110507 - Running Netscape 7 after moving the directory mozilla to another
110508 - location resulted in Netscape generating a new directory for mozilla
110509 - in the same place, and it launched the Profile Manager to set up a new
110510 - user, failing to recognize that the user profile for 00101 is already
110511 - configured.  This indicates that the registry.dat file is important,
110512 - and Netscape wants it located in a directory for the Windows program
110513 - rather than for the Netscape program.
110514 -
110515 -  ..
110516 - So, Netscape 7 is a program that automatically puts something in the
110517 - Windows program directory for the registry.dat file.
110518 -
110519 - I deleted this, and copied mozilla back to the Windows directory, and
110520 - the thing then launches the profile we have spent several days setting
110521 - up.
110522 -
110523 - I left a copy of mizolla directory in...
110524 -
110525 -
110526 -                    h: 00 27 mozilla
110527 -
110528 -
110529 - So, if the thing crashes, maybe we can put it back without too much
110530 - of a problem.
110531 -
110532 -  ..
110533 - We have the same kind of thing with Netscape 4.73.
110534 -
110535 - It wants the file...
110536 -
110537 -
110538 -                     h: 00 07 liprefs.js
110539 -
110540 -
110541 - ...and if it is deleted, then Netscape looses track of the users.
110542 -
110543 - There is also a copy of the same filename in...
110544 -
110545 -
110546 -                     h: 00 07 users 00101 liprefs.js
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SUBJECTS
Import Existing Profile Not Supported when User Sets up Custom Direct

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120402 - Importing Existing User Profiles Not Entirely Supported
120403 -
120404 - Import using the email Tools menu can use the following...
120405 -
120406 -      1.  Address book.
120407 -      2.  Issued and Received mail
120408 -      3.  Email configuration settings
120409 -
120410 - ...from the Netscape 4.7 program.
120411 -
120412 -  ..
120413 - Import for bookmarks is called differently from the Netscape progrm.
120414 -
120415 -     Open Bookmarks from the main menu.
120416 -
120417 -     Select Manage Bookmarks in the Bookmark menu
120418 -
120419 -     Select Tools from the Manage Bookmarks menu.
120420 -
120421 -     Select Import in the Tools menu for Manage Bookmarks
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Mail from Existing Netscape 4.73 Installation Imported to Local Folde

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130402 - There is a problem...
130403 -
130404 -    When mail is imported it is put in...
130405 -
130406 -                   Local folder
130407 -
130408 -    Rather than the server folder which manages ongoing mail.  There
130409 -    is no evident procedure for getting existing sent and received
130410 -    mail in the folders that are commonly used.
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SUBJECTS
Improvement Reduce Usefulness Lowest Common Denominator
Improvement Reduces Productivity Enabling Forces Economy Failing Care
Explicit Links Netscape 7 Does Not Display Explicit Links Correctly
Netscape 7 Does Not Display HTML for Com Metrics Like IE and Netscape
HTML Does Not Display Using Netscape 7 in Same Manner as IE and Netsc
Procedures HTML Coding Standards W3C for Coding Web Pages

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210802 - Improvements Reduce Usefulness and Productivity
210803 -
210804 -
210805 - Operational problems...
210806 -
210807 -    1.  There is the usual problem of the fields for configuring the
210808 -        program are significantly changed, so it takes a lot of time to
210809 -        setup the program.
210810 -
210811 -        There is a "classic" format that can be selected, that may
210812 -        avoid this problem.
210813 -
210814 -         ..
210815 -    2.  When mail is retrieved, it does not read in when the mail
210816 -        program is opened.  In Netscape 4.7 getting mail was
210817 -        accomplished with a single click.
210818 -
210819 -        Netscape 7 seems to require a second click.  I think there is a
210820 -        feature to set it to one click, but it is buried among a
210821 -        thousand menu options.
210822 -
210823 -         ..
210824 -    3.  SDS records and documents required refinement of HTML code to
210825 -        perform correct renderings that are supported by IE 6.0 and
210826 -        Netscape 4.73.  Improvements Gary has identified recently for
210827 -        Opera, reported on 021111, ref SDS 35 0001, may be a big part
210828 -        of the way Netscape 7 works, as well.  Netscape 7.0 does not
210829 -        seem to offer the same level of support that IE and Netscape
210830 -        4.73 provide to recognize formats that support Com Metrics and
210831 -        Knowledge Management.  This is another example of people
210832 -        working hard to make improvements, but causing loss of critical
210833 -        capability, reviewed on....
210834 -
210835 -             ..
210836 -         •  Markets don't compete usefulness.. 950710, ref SDS 4 HO4J
210839 -         •  W2K eliminates features........... 000227, 
210841 -         •  Improvements reduce prodcutivity.. 010325, 
210843 -         •  Too many people too many problems
210844 -            reduces productivity earnings..... 001207, ref SDS 29 0001
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210846 -         ..
210847 -        Two examples illustrate differences between Netscape 7.0 and IE
210848 -        and Netscape 4.73....
210849 -
210850 -        a.  Netscape 7.0 handles the cols param in the table command
210851 -            differently from 4.73 and IE 6.0, as shown in the record on
210852 -            021111. ref SDS 35 654F  This caused a delay and rework
210853 -            that suggests Netscape 7.0 is not a good choice for daily
210854 -            work to support Com Metrics and KM at this time.
210855 -            ref SDS 35 BJ26
210856 -
210857 -             ..
210858 -        b.  Was unable to get Netscape 7 to correctly render the list
210859 -            of publications on the Internet, worked last on 000827,
210860 -            ref SDS 28 1542, which both Netscape 4.73 and IE 6.0
210861 -            properly display.  Netscape 7.0 correctly displays the
210862 -            summary list....
210863 -
210864 -                http://www.welchco.com/00601.HTM
210865 -
210866 -             ..
210867 -            ...that has no explicit links, because the summary is
210868 -            treated as a single paragraph.  But Netscape 7.0 does not
210869 -            display the detailed list that has explicit links for
210870 -            addressability....
210871 -
210872 -                http://www.welchco.com/00601.HTM#4460
210873 -
210874 -             ..
210875 -            Netscape 7.0 displays the numbers of the ordered list (OL
210876 -            command) offset from the descriptions that are configured
210877 -            with explicit links.  I tried a number of different HTML
210878 -            configurations that all work with IE and Netscape 4.73.
210879 -            Finally got some code to work by removing the explicit
210880 -            links.  Once Netscape 7 rendered a para correctly without
210881 -            an explicit link, I put code for the link back and Netscape
210882 -            7.0 rendered the one para correctly, as if the program had
210883 -            been conditioned, or "learned," how to handle this code
210884 -            configuration.  However, the very next para and all the
210885 -            remaining items in the list with the same configuration for
210886 -            explicit links all continued to display incorrectly.
210887 -
210888 -             ..
210889 -            Not sure there are very many people who feel productivity
210890 -            is increased by investing a few hours manually tricking
210891 -            Netscape 7.0 into correctly displaying outlining needed for
210892 -            flexible structure that is called out in POIMS.
210893 -
210894 -         ..
210895 -    4.  This indicates Netscape 7.0 does not seem to handle
210896 -        addressability for outlining and lists, which is a critical
210897 -        part of SDS capability of flexible structure, explained in
210898 -        POIMS, ref OF 8 M17I, and in the record on 890523, ref SDS 2
210899 -        P13O   Flexible structure supported by addressability is needed
210900 -        for Communication Metrics and Knowledge Management, reported on
210901 -        020820, ref SDS 32 KY4I, and strengthened in the SDS program
210902 -        earlier this year on 020320. ref SDS 31 VP6F
210903 -
210904 -        We will keep Netscape for awhile in case things come up that
210905 -        can use its support.
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