THE WELCH COMPANY
440 Davis Court #1602
San Francisco, CA 94111-2496
415 781 5700


S U M M A R Y


DIARY: December 23, 2002 08:23 AM Monday; Rod Welch

John Deneen visit to install SDS on his computer.

1...Summary/Objective
2...Configure SDS CD for John
.....SDS Program Operation
........Ws_ftp Pro Configure v. 6.05 to Support Transfer to Internet
.....SDS Diary Records
.....Work Files Documents, Reports External to SDS Records


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CONTACTS 
0201 - Deneen Consulting                            925 229 1858
020101 - Mr. John Deneen
020102 - jjdeneen@netzero.net

SUBJECTS
Deneen, John
Foster Culture of Knowledge Communication Link Cite SDS POIMS for Fou
Deneen, John Install SDS to Learn and Use for More SDS Records on Int
Foster Culture of Knowledge Communication Link Cite SDS POIMS for Fou
SDS Records on Internet So People Can Bump Into Them Gain Experience
Network Failed Connect to Computer Running Windows Millennium Despite
Network Failed Connect C11 Running W2K to Computer Running Windows Mi
Network Connection Failed Created CD for Installation
Backup Utility Required a Lot of Revision to Handle C Drive

2011 -    ..
2012 - Summary/Objective
2013 -
201301 - Follow up ref SDS 24 0000, ref SDS 23 0000.
201302 -
201303 - John came by today to install SDS on his notbeook computer.  We
201304 - encountered problems conntecting the computers for transferring SDS.
201305 - Worked rest of the day making a CD for installing SDS, similar to
201306 - Gary. ref SDS 0 KP4N  Encountered a few problems as a result of recent
201307 - improvemments to SDS that required modifying the op to create a
201308 - version of SDS that runs on the c drive.
201309 -
201310 -     [On 021225 completed improvements and prepared CD for John to use
201311 -     SDS on the c drive. ref SDS 31 0001
201312 -
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201314 -
201315 -
201316 -
201317 -  ..
2014 -
2015 -
2016 - Progress
2017 -
201701 - Called John and left message on cellular phone about visiting in
201702 - Concord today to install SDS, per planning and understandings in the
201703 - letter, ref DIP 1 0001, to John confirming our meeting on 021212.
201704 - ref SDS 24 0001
201705 -
201706 -
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201710 -
201711 -  ..
2018 -
2019 -
2020 - 0920
2021 -
202101 - John called back.
202102 -
202103 - He will come by about 1000 to do the installation.
202104 -
202105 - Prepared a current version of SDS to run on the c drive, using new
202106 - code developed on 021213. ref SDS 26 0001
202107 -
202108 -
202109 -
202110 -  ..
2022 -
2023 -
2024 - 0954
2025 -
202501 - John arrived with his sons, Shawn and Brian.
202502 -
202503 - We had difficulty getting the two computers to see each other on the
202504 - network, similar to the experience on 021214 when the notebook, c12,
202505 - running W2K would not connect to Bill's computer running XP.  At that
202506 - time, the computers saw each other, but would not transfer files.
202507 - ref SDS 27 0NW0
202508 -
202509 - Today, John's computer is running Windows Millennium and we are having
202510 - difficulty connecting to my computers running w2k.
202511 -
202512 - We checked the record on 010202, and noticed that setting the
202513 - "workgroup" to the same name was helpful. ref SDS 9 7945   We did
202514 - this by setting the workgroup on John's computer to RW, but this did
202515 - not result in the computers recognizing each other.  John's computer
202516 - evenually seemed to recognize c12, but asked for a password.  Could
202517 - find the password.  System Information lists the "System Name" which
202518 - is c11, but not a password.
202519 -
202520 -  ..
202521 - The record on 020416 shows configuration of the Network on c11 that
202522 - set a password using poims. ref SDS 15 7945
202523 -
202524 -  ..
202525 - As a result of these difficulties, decided to create a CD for John to
202526 - install SDS on his computer, using the procedures developed to install
202527 - SDS on Gary Johnson's computer, reported on 020924. ref SDS 17 QP4N
202528 -
202529 -  ..
202530 - A problem to avoid this time that occurred using a CD disk for
202531 - installing SDS on Gary's computer is that using Windows drag and drop
202532 - to copy files to the CD after formatting, results in all of the files
202533 - and directories having a read-only attribute, reported on 020930.
202534 - ref SDS 18 564J
202535 -
202536 -  ..
202537 - Gary had a lot of problems getting SDS to run, and discovered this
202538 - was caused by the read-only attribute, then had a lot of problems
202539 - removing the attribute.
202540 -
202541 - This time we will use xcopy to transfer SDS files from the CD to the
202542 - hard disk, which somehow or other avoids transferring the read-only
202543 - attribute, reported on 990817. ref SDS 3 0899
202544 -
202545 -     ..
202546 -    Additionally, I learned today through experience that using xcopy
202547 -    to transfer files after formatting a CD avoids the read-only
202548 -    attribute altogether. ref SDS 0 TS3J
202549 -
202550 -     ..
202551 -    Further, on 021219 Morris provided an attr command, ref SDS 30
202552 -    OI6J, that is now used to remove all attributes on SDS records,
202553 -    unless the record is marked confidential. ref SDS 30 XS6L
202554 -
202555 -    As a result, this problem may be moot.
202556 -
202557 -  ..
202558 - Configure SDS environment to run on c: and include...
202559 -
202560 -     1.  John Deneen
202561 -     2.  Rod Welch
202562 -     3.  Gary Johnson
202563 -
202564 - SDS records for Rod and Gary already exist, so these need merely be
202565 - copied to the CD for John.
202566 -
202567 - Opened SDS and the feature for setting up a new user, and created a
202568 - new set of SDS program and records for John, per below. ref SDS 0 RR4F
202569 -
202570 -  ..
202571 - We have a CD, aleady configured with stuff for Gary back on 020924,
202572 - but I want to use the new stuff created since then.
202573 -
202574 -  ..
202575 - Formatted the CD, took about 70 minutes.
202576 -
202577 - Turned out that after formatting the CD, xcopy can be used from a DOS
202578 - prompt to copy files to the CD, rather than use Windows drag and drop,
202579 - and this eliminated the read-only attribute, per above. ref SDS 0 YL9L
202580 -
202581 - After getting files on the CD, per below, ref SDS 0 RR4F, installation
202582 - was tested by copying everything back to the hard disk using normal
202583 - xcopy procedures to set up SDS for a new user.
202584 -
202585 - This testing revealed a number of problems.
202586 -
202587 -     Took 8 hours or so to iron these out to update the conversion
202588 -     process to accomodate improvements made over the past few years,
202589 -     since we last used a c version of SDS.
202590 -
202591 -  ..
202592 - After completing this work, there are still three (3) problems...
202593 -
202594 -    1.  sd 01 25.bat that builds pointers for doing reports is not
202595 -        converting to c drive.
202596 -
202597 -    2.  sd 01 backup.bat backing up drives d and f need to specify
202598 -        directories because, in the case of d: when this is converted
202599 -        to c:, it means it backs up the entire drive.
202600 -
202601 -    3.  capacity of cd is not big enough for everything.
202602 -
202603 -  ..
202604 - Found solution to the first problem in the record on 021213 where code
202605 - similar to processing sd 03 macro files. ref SDS 26 HK7I  Since
202606 - m250.bat was already copying these files, the copy process was
202607 - overwriting the converted files.
202608 -
202609 - Solution to second problem is also reported on 021213. ref SDS 26 AL4G
202610 -
202611 - Solving the third problem is more difficult, may neeed 2 CDs, but very
202612 - hard to believe.
202613 -
202614 -  ..
202615 - Formatted the CD again and copied the stuff again.
202616 -
202617 -   This was actually started the next day before we left for Grass
202618 -   Valley to visit everyone at Steve and Lilly's place for Christmas
202619 -   eve.
202620 -
202621 -
202622 -
202623 -
202624 -
202625 -
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SUBJECTS
SDS Installed for Pilot Testing to Market
SDS Installation to Learn and Use SDS for Marketing
Deneen, John Learning and Using SDS
SDS Install on John's Computer
CD Created to Install SDS

2608 -
260801 -  ..
260802 - Configure SDS CD for John
260803 -
260804 -
260805 - Created User ID:        klgrh
260806 -
260807 -              password:  poims
260808 -
260809 -       John can change the password to anything he likes.
260810 -
260811 -  ..
260812 - CD has files similar to the list on 020924. ref SDS 17 U69G
260813 -
260814 -      ..
260815 -     SDS Program Operation
260816 -
260817 -
260818 -            sd 01     SDS program files
260819 -            sd 02     Printer fonts, probably not needed
260820 -            sd 03     SDS macros used by program files
260821 -            sd 04     Menues
260822 -            sd 05     Help files
260823 -            sd 06     Organic subject structures
260824 -            sd 07     Repetitive dates, e.g., birthdays
260825 -            sd 08     SDS records (see below, ref SDS 0 HE5L)
260826 -            sd 09     Contacts
260827 -            sd wl     SDS records and documents in HTML on Internet
260828 -
260829 -          ..
260830 -         Note....
260831 -
260832 -            sd 10
260833 -
260834 -               This is a nul directory, simply for temporary stuff
260835 -               that is held while figuring out where to put a new
260836 -               file that may be received, then deleted, after
260837 -               transfer to an actual system location.
260838 -
260839 -         ..
260840 -        Ws_ftp Pro Configure v. 6.05 to Support Transfer to Internet
260841 -
260842 -
260843 -            sd ftp
260844 -
260845 -               Copied ws_ftp installation files, so John can configure
260846 -               the ftp program to upload SDS records and documents to
260847 -               the Internet, using instructions reported in the record
260848 -               on 010202. ref SDS 9 4945  Alternatively, John could
260849 -               use the newest version of Ws_ftp and get the fix Gary
260850 -               Johnson created, reported on
260851 -
260852 -               Also put a set of these files in....
260853 -
260854 -                       g: sd 51 ftp
260855 -
260856 -               ...so this will be included with the standard op for
260857 -               assembling a new user program set, based on code in....
260858 -
260859 -
260860 -                            c: sd 01 m250.bat
260861 -
260862 -               ...which zips up everything in g: sd 51 01. ref OF 6
260863 -               M84J
260864 -
260865 -                ..
260866 -               Once installed from the hard disk, the work plan is in
260867 -               the record on 010202, ref SDS 9 4945, by first
260868 -               running...
260869 -
260870 -
260871 -                        c: sd ftp instl install.exe
260872 -
260873 -
260874 -               ...then run the update...
260875 -
260876 -
260877 -                        c: sd ftp instl ftppatch.exe
260878 -
260879 -                ..
260880 -               This hopefully will avoid problems Gary Johnson reported, for example
260881 -               on 021125. ref SDS 21 XM3F
260882 -
260883 -
260884 -
260885 -      ..
260886 -     SDS Diary Records
260887 -
260888 -     Copy these directories to the d: drive...
260889 -
260890 -            sd 08 KLGRH........... John Deneen
260891 -            sd 08 00101........... Rod Welch
260892 -            sd 08 GLJDY........... Gary Johnson
260893 -
260894 -
260895 -      ..
260896 -     Work Files Documents, Reports External to SDS Records
260897 -
260898 -
260899 -        Projects
260900 -
260901 -            03 00050    SDS project
260902 -
260903 -        Small Jobs
260904 -
260905 -            04 00065    US Amry Corps of Engineers
260906 -            04 00067    OHS/DKR Doug Engelbart SRI
260907 -            04 00074    SDS Learn Use Evaluate, Gary Johnson
260908 -            04 00075    SDS Learn Use Evaluate, John Deneen
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Distribution. . . . See "CONTACTS"