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DIARY: October 5, 2015 11:02 AM Monday; Rod Welch

VA meeting Doctor Wisneski on CCTA test response to treatment regress atherosclerotic plaques.

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040501 - Follow up ref SDS 16 0000. ref SDS 15 0000.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
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0408 - Progress                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
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040901 - While walking to the stairs from the ER on the ground floor of                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
040902 - building 200, to the Radiology Department on the 2nd floor, met in the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
040903 - hallway Doctor Judith Wisneski.  Have seen her over the past years                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
040904 - talking with Doctor Stewart in the hallways, but have never been                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
040905 - introduced.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
040907 -  ..
040908 - None-the-less she knew my name.  Doctor Wisneski advised that she                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
040909 - works in Cardiology and is aware of the meeting scheduled with Doctor                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040910 - Simpson on 151014, and which was set up on 151001 1200. ref SDS 15                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
040911 - PP5N                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
040913 -  ..
040914 - The doctor had her back to the door leading to the stair well.  While                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040915 - we talked somone opened the door abruptly, striking her in the back,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
040916 - including her head.  Of course she was startled, and immediately said                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040917 - she must lay down to recover from this blow.  Doctor Wisneski went                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
040918 - through door, and I followed to render assistance.   However, she                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
040919 - leaned against the wall of the stair well, and continued discussion.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
040921 -  ..
040922 - Later was told that Doctor Wisneski is Chief of Cardilogy at the VA.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
040924 -  ..
040925 - We had a long discussion in the stairwell, perhaps 30 minutes, about                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
040926 - performing coronary CT angiography (CCTA) with calcium score for the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
040927 - purpose of...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
040928 -                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
040929 -    1.  Evaluate level of atherosclerotic plaques following CABG +4 on                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040930 -        091022 0700. ref SDS 4 JF9K                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
040932 -         ..
040933 -    2.  Low levels of atherosclerotic plaques shown by CCTA with low                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
040934 -        calcium score provides standard of care testing response to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
040935 -        treatment with extended endurance exercise through hiking 11                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
040936 -        miles per day, 300 miles per month at the rate of 13 - 17                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
040937 -        minutes per mile, and over the past 4 years which raised HDL                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
040938 -        from 30 to 70, as shown in spreadsheet previously submitted to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040939 -        Doctor Rao...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
040940 -                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
040941 -              F:\05\00003\SM\CC\BNKG\120216cc\130101cc\hiking_miles_3.xlsx                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
040943 -         ..
040944 -        General summary of hiking correlated with improved HDL and                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
040945 -        Triglycerides is shown in case study of patient history on                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
040946 -        140101 0600. ref SDS 12 TTQS (see line 107069)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
040948 -         ..
040949 -    3.  Low levels of atherosclerotic plaques shown by low calcium                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
040950 -        score may occur from rapid regression and repair of lesions in                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040951 -        the endothelium lining of blood vessels with high levels of HDL                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
040952 -        (> 60) cholesterol and EPCs, indicated in research on 131125                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
040953 -        0005, ref SDS 11 6O9M, and further at ref SDS 11 XY7L, both                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
040954 -        produced with extended endurance exercise through hiking 11                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
040955 -        miles per day, 300 miles per month.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
040957 -         ..
040958 -    4.  Low levels of atherosclerotic plaques shown by low calcium                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
040959 -        score supports reduced reliance on statin drug treatments,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
040960 -        since atherosclerotic plaques take years to regenerate.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
040962 -         ..
040963 -    5.  Low levels of atherosclerotic plaques shown by low calcium                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
040964 -        score that supports reduced reliance on statin drug treatments,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
040965 -        thereby reduces onerous side effects of statin drugs.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
040967 -         ..
040968 -        Reduced dizziness increases effectiveness performing daily                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
040969 -        work.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
040971 -         ..
040972 -        Reduced urination reduces dehydration, which reduces feet                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
040973 -        injuries of blistering, scaling, peeling, bleeding.  Healthy                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
040974 -        feet enables more hiking to increase HDL and EPCs maintaining                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
040975 -        low levels of atherosclerotic plaques, lowering risks of                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
040976 -        negative cardiovascular events, and thus extending chances of                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
040977 -        longevity with a quality of life worth living.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040979 -         ..
040980 -    6.  Low levels of atherosclerotic plaques shown by low calcium                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
040981 -        score supports reduced level of effort performing extended                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
040982 -        endurance exercise through hiking, perhaps to 4 or 5 miles per                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040983 -        day, thus enabling investing 1 - 2 hours saved per day in                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
040984 -        other necessities.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
040986 -  ..
040987 - The doctor was aware of pending meeting with Doctor Simpson scheduled                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040988 - on 151014 0900.  She seemed to say that Doctor Simpson feels this                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
040989 - upcoming meeting is unnecessary, and that nothing can be accomplished.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
040991 -  ..
040992 - Doctor Wisneski was generally aware that extended endurance exercise                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
040993 - hiking 300 miles per month over the past several years has increased                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
040994 - HDL 30 up to 70, shown in patient history submitted to the VA in case                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040995 - study on 140101 0600. ref SDS 12 XY4M  She indicated this lipid profile                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
040996 - significantly improves coronary health, reducing risks of CVD.  She                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
040997 - encouraged continued efforts, and also noted the VA has no records of                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040998 - anyone else making this level of effort nor increasing HDL by 140%.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
040999 - Therefore, it seems beyond reach for mainstream cardiology care.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
041001 -  ..
041002 - Doctor Wisneski was sympathetic with objectives for reducing side                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
041003 - effects of statin medications, in this case mainly dizziness and                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
041004 - frequent urination, which in turn causes dehydration that injures the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041005 - feet, preventing hiking to raise HDL.  She suggested continuing to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
041006 - take statins but at reduced levels.  There was not enough time today                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041007 - to consider reducing current low dose of Atorvastain 10 mg and                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
041008 - Ezetimibe 10 mg to 5 mg.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
041010 -  ..
041011 - Doctor Wisneski further proposed changing use of statins from daily to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041012 - every other day, thus lowering the concentration in order to reduce                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041013 - side effects.  This would seem to be trial and error finding level of                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041014 - statins that maintain favorable lipids with minimum side effects.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
041016 -  ..
041017 - The doctor asked about patient history taking statins?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041019 -  ..
041020 - Simvastatin was started in 2010.  Disabling side effects of severe                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
041021 - myopathy in left shoulder caused treatment with Simvastatin to end on                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041022 - 110817 1030. ref SDS 8 QF6W  At that time on 110817, switched to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041023 - Rosuvastatin. ref SDS 8 DG36  It was ended on 121206, due to side                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
041024 - effects of frequent urination with consequent dehydration injuries to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041025 - feet, dry mouth, etc. ref SDS 9 OS5L  Since 131015, have been taking                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
041026 - low dose Atorvastatin and Ezetimibe 10 and 10.  This worked well until                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041027 - progressive side effects of frequent urination with dehydration began                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041028 - causing blisters, peeling, cracking and bleeding feet, which prevented                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041029 - hiking.  So paused the protocol on 150427, shown in case study on                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
041030 - 140101 0600. ref SDS 12 AS5J  After about 3 weeks, feet seemed fully                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
041031 - recovered, so resumed Atorvastatin and Ezetimibe 10 10, reported on                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041032 - 150516. ref SDS 12 P84G  Frequent urination recurred within 3 months,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
041033 - with dehydration effects on feet that prevented hiking, so paused                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
041034 - statin treatment again on 150809 (see case study on 140101 0600.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
041035 - ref SDS 12 GH3G).                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
041037 -  ..
041038 - Additionally, On 150819 also paused Proton Pump Inhibitor (PPI -                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
041039 - Omeprazole), ref SDS 12 X07H, because research found taking PPI 80 mg                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
041040 - previously caused signficant dehydration, reported 5 years ago on                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
041041 - 101218 1642. ref SDS 7 8Q5I                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
041043 -  ..
041044 - With medications paused, frequent urination then declined.  On 150918,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041045 - report feet seem substantially recovered. ref SDS 12 4W9N                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
041047 -  ..
041048 - Doctor Wisneski seemed to say the medical team cannot support standard                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041049 - of care in this case because there is no protocol for using coronary                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041050 - CT angiography with calcium score to test for response to treatment                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041051 - with extended endurance training hiking 11 miles per day and 300 miles                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041052 - per month.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
041054 -  ..
041055 - The doctor seemed to mention that some years ago UCSF had a protocol                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041056 - for testing response to treatment with extended endurance exercise.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041057 - She further indicated that testing only 1 person would not justify                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
041058 - publishing results.  She noted there would be difficulty attracting                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041059 - people to participate in a trial of extended endurance exercise at                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
041060 - levels 7 - 8 miles per day and only 250 miles per month, likely                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
041061 - required to raise HDL above 60, sufficient to regress atherosclerotic                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041062 - plaques.  May turn out that level of effort varies according to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
041063 - patient baseline HDL.  Some patients may have baseline HDL 40, rather                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041064 - than 30.  This may take less effort to get to 60, but only testing                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
041065 - can identify actual requirements.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
041067 -  ..
041068 - The implication seemed to be that if patients choose to avoid effort                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041069 - that regresses athersclerotic plaques, which may in turn extend                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
041070 - longevity and quality of life, this preference justifies not testing                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041071 - to see if benefits in this case, as set out above, ref SDS 16 HE5Y,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
041072 - support reducing drug side effects by reducing treatment with statin                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041073 - medications.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
041075 -  ..
041076 - Doctor Wisneski at one point noted patients are free to stop taking                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041077 - statin drugs to control atherosclerotic plaques at any time, so there                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041078 - is no need to perform coronary CT angiography test to determine that                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041079 - former high concentrations of atherosclerotic plaques have been fully                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041080 - or otherwise significantly regressed, which justifies ending treatment                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041081 - with statin drugs, and also reducing treatment and time time                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
041082 - performing extended endurance exercise, thus reducing wear and tear on                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041083 - the body, i.e., side effects of endurance training. (see point 6,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
041084 - ref SDS 16 IL4I)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041086 -  ..
041087 - There was not enough time today, to consider similarities between                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
041088 - pausing treatment of atherosclerosis with statins based on favorable                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041089 - results of CT testing, and pausing chemotherapy, so that cancer                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
041090 - patients avoid debilitating side effects of treatment, when radiology                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041091 - testing finds NED, i.e., cancer has been regressed, shown by Millie's                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041092 - case fighting stage 4 cancer for nearly 10 years, e.g., on 051121                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
041093 - 1640. ref SDS 2 AW5G                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
041095 -  ..
041096 - Doctor Wisneski seemed to say that, even if coronary CT angiography                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041097 - (CCTA) testing finds only a single 10% lesion, this would not justify                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041098 - reducing statin drug treatment, because the next day after the test,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041099 - that single 10% lesion could become a 100% blockage.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041101 -  ..
041102 - Advised this theory has not been encountered in cardiology and lipid                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041103 - management literature, reviewed for example on 131125 0005.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
041104 - ref SDS 11 JV5O  It sounds similar to blood clot events from pulmonary                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
041105 - embolism, which was diagnosed for Millie at Kaiser on 041104 1030.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
041106 - ref SDS 1 RZ4I  As well the medical team treated me with Coumadin to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
041107 - resolve DVT following CABG +4 surgery, and arising from Cordis                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
041108 - catheter, reported on 091030 0810. ref SDS 5 1N6L  That treatment was                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
041109 - ended by the CT team, when radiology testing showed DVT was resolved,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041110 - reported on 091208 1300. ref SDS 6 D24G                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
041112 -  ..
041113 - Today, there was no discussion of how statin treatments would avoid a                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041114 - catostrphic event of a 10% lesion suddenly expanding into a 100%                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
041115 - blockage.  Of course time was very limited, so understandings may have                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041116 - been incomplete.   Doctor Simpson may be able to clarify the matter                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041117 - during the meeting next week on 151014.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
041119 -  ..
041120 - We discussed cardiology literature reporting high concentrations of                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041121 - HDL, i.e., above 60, remove LDL lesions, and return them to the liver,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041122 - something called "Reverse Lipid Transport" (RLT), reported on 131125                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041123 - 0005. ref SDS 11 Z49G  Similarly, high EPCs repair lesions in                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041124 - endothelial lining of blood vessels caused by HDL removing plaque,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
041125 - also reported on 131125 0005. ref SDS 11 R44O  Both HDL and EPCs are                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
041126 - increased with exercise above a threshhold level.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
041128 -  ..
041129 - Doctor Wineski seemed to say at one point that while coronary CTA is                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041130 - not a reliable test for evaluating regression of atherosclerotic                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
041131 - plaques, this can be evaluated effectively with conventional and                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
041132 - invasive cardiac catheterization angiogram tests.  The procedure was                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041133 - performed by Doctor Shunk in this case on 091021 0716. ref SDS 3 7L43                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
041135 -  ..
041136 - Indicated objective to avoid invasive procedures, for reasons                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
041137 - presented by Doctor Shunk on 131121 0930. ref SDS 10 8D6N  There was no                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
041138 - time today for discussing why finding no evidence of disease (NED),                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041139 - i.e., no atherosclerotic plaques - calcium score 0, with invasive                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
041140 - procedures is any more helpful than making the same finding with                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
041141 - non-invasive radiology methods using CCTA with calcium score.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
041143 -  ..
041144 - Further suggested that the meeting with Doctor Simpson scheduled for                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041145 - next week on 151014, can be cancelled, based on extensive time Doctor                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041146 - Wineski has generously granted today, presenting views of the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
041147 - Cardiology Department.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
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041150 - Doctor Wineski seemed to indicate the meeting should take place.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
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041153 - Thanked Doctor Wisneski for sharing ideas on managing atheroslclorsis                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
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