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DIARY: February 28, 2002 05:07 PM Thursday; Rod Welch

Mike Poremba inquires about SDS; wants to improve interface.

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CONTACTS 
0201 - Poremba Consulting                   415 819 9660
020101 - Mr. Michale Poremba; 415 819 9660
020102 - michael_poremba@yahoo.com

SUBJECTS
POIMS Implement Technology Improve Management
POIMS Effective Message Nord, Jerry, CSG Inquires about SDS Feels Com
SDS Unique KM Secret Industry Doesn't Know How to Design KM
SDS Development Interface Inquiry to Improve SDS
Poremba, Mike Interested in Working on SDS Interface Seems Familiar w
Interface, Menus, Mouse, Speech, Mike Poremba Wants to Contribute
Poremba, Mike Wants to Talk about SDS Interface Development
Poremba, Michael Wants to Talk about Contributing to SDS and Com Metr
Poremba, Michael Software Engineer Wants to Contribute to SDS Com Met

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5112 - Summary/Objective
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511301 - Follow up ref SDS 69 0000, ref SDS 66 0000.
511302 -
511303 - Received ref DRT 1 0001 from Mike Poremba expressing interest in
511304 - working on the interface issue for SDS, saying....
511305 -
511306 -    1.  For the past few months I've been loitering in the mailing
511307 -        lists for BA-UNREV-TALK, BA-OHS-TALK, CoWorking, VIMS, KLOGS,
511308 -        CompendiumInsti, and radio-userland. First found out about you,
511309 -        SDS, and POIMS through some of these discussions. ref DRT 1
511310 -        0001
511311 -
511312 -            Interest in SDS, POIMS and Com Metrics, listed in Mike's
511313 -            letter, ref DRT 1 004H, helps foster a culture of
511314 -            knowledge.
511315 -        ..
511316 -    2.  I've been fascinated by software-enabled collaboration
511317 -        for years now, and finally started working on my own project
511318 -        last year. Eventually, I'd like to present my work to the OHS
511319 -        regulars, once it's more complete. ref DRT 1 IG6F
511320 -        ..
511321 -    3.  My intention was to personally contact you in six months
511322 -        or so--like I said--once my application is more complete. But
511323 -        seeing a posting today from Peter Jones, excerpted below,
511324 -        prompted me to write you. ref DRT 1 NG6K
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511326 -            [On 020522 Mike making progress on program to support
511327 -            collaboration. ref SDS 71 XM9F
511328 -        ..
511329 -    4.  Peter has suggested that the UI for SDS could be
511330 -        improved. I've been thinking about this issue for the past few
511331 -        days. My exposure, of course, is quite limited--I've only read
511332 -        through pages on welchco.com/sd/, following the references in
511333 -        your e-mails, and poking around through the material. The past
511334 -        few days I've been thinking about how improving the UI could
511335 -        help with usability. ref DRT 1 008H
511336 -
511337 -            [On 020522 Mike does not have time to collaborate on
511338 -            improving SDS User Interface. ref SDS 71 J25L
511339 -        ..
511340 -    5.  How's it going regarding development on SDS?
511341 -
511342 -        I'd love to chat sometime. My topics of interest:, ref DRT 1
511343 -        004H
511344 -
511345 -          •  SDS and POIMS
511346 -          •  UI and usability
511347 -          •  Welchco
511348 -          •  Weblogging (more specifically, K-Logging)
511349 -          •  Collaborative outliners
511350 -          •  IBIS
511351 -          •  Marketing
511352 -          •  The OHS/DKR crowd
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511355 - ..
511356 - Submitted ref DIT 1 0001 to Mike with copies to Morris and Gary
511357 - Johnson, and saying....
511358 -
511359 -    1.  Have you looked at POIMS?
511360 -
511361 -    2.  I am looking for folks who can communicate in terms of POIMS,
511362 -        since that sets a common agenda. ref DIT 1 QG5L
511363 -
511364 -           This aligns with the letter to Jerry Nord at CSB on 011210
511365 -           that calls for using POIMS as a common agenda. ref SDS 69
511366 -           P54G
511367 -
511368 -    3.  You can call me at 415 781 5700 to visit about prospects for
511369 -        collaboration.
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5116 - 1200
5117 -   ..
511701 - Received ref DRT 2 0001 from Mike saying....
511702 -
511703 -    1.  Tell you what. Give me a couple of months. I'll do my homework
511704 -        first.  Here's what I'll read up on.
511705 -
511706 -          • The POIMS material you recommended
511707 -          • Some whitepapers on IBIS that Jeff Conklin recommended
511708 -          • Some more OHS and DKR background material
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511710 -    2.  When I'm more versed in these subjects, and have applied POIMS
511711 -        myself, then we'll talk. ref DRT 2 V56G
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511713 -    3.  Let me know if there's anything else you'd recommend I be
511714 -        introduced to before we meet. ref DRT 2 366J
511715 -        ..
511716 -    4.  If you're not already aware of blogs and klogs, I
511717 -        recommend you take a look at where daily diaries have headed.
511718 -        ref DRT 2 G66M
511719 -
511720 -          • Klogs: weblogs aren't just for entertainment
511721 -
511722 -            http://www.dynamiclist.com/?list_id=3369
511723 -
511724 -               POIMS initially seemed to be referenced at this
511725 -               location, but when I came back to it, the reference was
511726 -               missing, so not sure about this point.
511727 -
511728 -               Storytelling is explained as a great way to impart
511729 -               experience.
511730 -
511731 -                  [On 020310 Sparrow is another web site that permits
511732 -                  online editing of common files. ref SDS 70 0001
511733 -               ..
511734 -               Outlining is supported by the Dynamic List Editor
511735 -               and is designed to help quickly express and organize
511736 -               ideas or information.
511737 -
511738 -               Uses IE and Microsoft Data Access Components (MDAC).
511739 -               MDAC is used to transfer lists between your browser and
511740 -               the server.
511741 -
511742 -               "Blogger is a free, web-based tool that helps you
511743 -               publish to the web instantly -- whenever the urge
511744 -               strikes. Blogger is the leading tool in the rapidly
511745 -               growing area publishing known as weblogs, or "blogs," as
511746 -               we like to say."
511747 -
511748 -          • Weblog and dynamic web content editors
511749 -
511750 -            http://www.dynamiclist.com/?list_id=141
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5120 - 1927
5121 -   ..
512101 - Tried Mike's phone number to expedite progress.  Left a voice
512102 - mail message.
512103 -
512104 - Submitted ref DIT 2 0001 responding to Mike, and saying....
512105 -
512106 -    1.  I just left a voice message saying I don't think another two
512107 -        months of research is needed in advance of communication on
512108 -        POIMS and SDS, per your letter earlier today.
512109 -
512110 -    2.  Looked briefly at the links in your letter this evening, and
512111 -        noticed POIMS is referenced at one location, ref DIT 2 1R5N,
512112 -        and the other link says.....
512113 -
512114 -            "Blogger is a free, web-based tool that helps you publish
512115 -            to the web instantly -- whenever the urge strikes. Blogger
512116 -            is the leading tool in the rapidly growing area publishing
512117 -            known as weblogs, or "blogs," as we like to say."
512118 -
512119 -        ...per above. ref SDS 0 JT9K
512120 -        ..
512121 -    3.  There is not a lot of synergy between blog and klog, and
512122 -        SDS that strives to enable deliberation, ref DIT 2 MT6N, and
512123 -        Blogger that supports spontaneous reactive work, as discussed
512124 -        in POIMS. ref OF 2 MQ6J  It is important to develop skill
512125 -        writing a story, because people think through stories and
512126 -        better thinking is our objective, as reported on 900319.
512127 -        ref SDS 4 0005
512128 -
512129 -    4.  Research on 010420 indicates it is not necessary for Mike to
512130 -        read up on Jeff Conklin's work, ref SDS 44 MU7O, nor on
512131 -        OHS/DKR, nor on IBIS in order to make progress reviewing POIMS.
512132 -        Mike's initial letter shows some familiarity with POIMS, but if
512133 -        not, suggest he try to plow through it. ref DIT 2 UV7L
512134 -
512135 -        Mike seems to write pretty well, so if he does not feel like
512136 -        talking, he can send a letter explaining the correlation you
512137 -        see between POIMS and your objectives.
512138 -        ..
512139 -        In any case, let's shoot for less than 2 months.
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