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S U M M A R Y


DIARY: January 7, 2016 08:42 PM Thursday; Rod Welch

VA letter Doctor Jha clarify CCTA 151019, Radiology at VA Medical Center San Francisco.

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040501 - Follow up ref SDS 16 0000. ref SDS 14 0000.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
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0408 - Background                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
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040901 - On 151019, VA Radiology performed CCTA. ref SDS 6 NV5I  The report                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
040902 - interpreting the test merely states all bypass grafts are patent.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
040903 - ref SDS 6 JW8O  The VA also reported a finding that calcium score was                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
040904 - not calculated. ref SDS 6 8Q6I                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
040906 -  ..
040907 - On 151203, met with Bret Elicker in the Radiology Department of the VA                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
040908 - Medical Center in San Francisco.  Doctor Elicker advised that he read                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040909 - the CCTA scan file created on 151019, and found no evidence of any                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
040910 - lesions or blockages in the active circulatory system. ref SDS 8 SZ5F                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
040911 - The doctor also reported that a calcium score was generated and the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
040912 - result was about 1200, ref SDS 8 4S6M, and that all of this calcium                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
040913 - was found in the bypassed blood vessels, and so none is present in the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
040914 - active circulatory system.  As a result, calcium found in the bypassed                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
040915 - blood vessels presents no risk to patient health, longevity, nor to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
040916 - quality of life. ref SDS 8 QW4K                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040918 -  ..
040919 - On 151204, ordered 2nd opinion from SLDC to obtain written                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
040920 - confirmation of findings from CCTA, ref SDS 9 644K, performed at the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
040921 - VA Medical Center in San Francisco on 151019.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
040923 -  ..
040924 - On 151215 1642 received 2nd opinion from SLDC. ref SDS 11 RV5F  For                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
040925 - some reason, the letter does not present detailed findings to clarify                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040926 - the VA's original report that "All bypass grafts are patent."                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
040927 - ref SDS 11 A88O                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040929 -  ..
040930 - On 151215 1642 at 2156 sent letter to Doctor Vernacchia at SLDC                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
040931 - requesting clarification of 2nd opinion letter. ref SDS 11 MZ5L                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040933 -  ..
040934 - On 151216 0915 received letter from Doctor Vernacchia saying SLDC does                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
040935 - not have "equipment" to render a medical opinion of amount of                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
040936 - stenosis,lesions and blockages in active circulatory system.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
040937 - ref SDS 12 5O4H                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040939 -  ..
040940 - On 151217 submitted letter to Doctor Elicker requesting amendment to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
040941 - clarify findings for CCTA, 151217 2052, ref SDS 13 Y630, performed on                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
040942 - 151019 that says simply all bypass grafts are patent. ref SDS 6 8Q6I                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
040944 -  ..
040945 - On 151223 0921 called Doctor Elicker, and he recommending meeting with                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
040946 - the attending physician, Doctor Priyanka Jha, to file an addendum that                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
040947 - clafifies the radiology report for CCTA on 151019. ref SDS 14 A46I                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
040949 -  ..
040950 - On 150104 0855 meeting Doctor Jha in Radiology at VA Medical Center in                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
040951 - San Francisco, the doctor confirmed that CCTA on 151019 found                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
040952 - radiology policy and practice no plaque build up of any kind (other                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
040953 - than bypassed blood vessels) establishes none were evident from the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
040954 - CCTA test on 151019.  You also advised that plaque in bypassed blood                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
040955 - vessels presents no risk to patient health. ref SDS 16 054G                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
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0412 - Progress                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
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041301 - Sent letter to Doctor Jha saying...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
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041303 -    1.  Subject:  Addendum Clarify Findings CCTA Oct 19 2015                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
041304 -        Date:  2016-01-07 14:56                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
041313 -         ..
041314 -    2.  Thanks for visiting this past Monday, on 160104 in the VA                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
041315 -        Radiology Department, ref SDS 16 Y55N, to consider filing an                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
041316 -        addendum to the report on the CCTA performed on 151019.  It was                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041317 -        a pleasure meeting you, and especially helpful seeing you                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
041318 -        demonstrate on the computer how to interpret the CCTA study.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041319 -        ref SDS 16 6G3F  Our discussion on Monday, aligns with                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041320 -        understandings meeting with Doctor Elicker, as shown in the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
041321 -        letter to him on 151217, below. ref SDS 13 EX4G                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
041323 -         ..
041324 -    3.  To summarize, you advised that radiology policy and practice                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041325 -        reporting no findings of plaque build up of any kind (other                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
041326 -        than bypassed blood vessels) establishes none were evident from                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041327 -        the CCTA test on 151019.  You also advised that plaque in                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
041328 -        bypassed blood vessels presents no risk to patient health.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
041329 -        ...[referencing meeting with Doctor Jah on 160104 0855,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
041330 -        ref SDS 16 X64K...].                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
041332 -         ..
041333 -    4.  Based on your explanation, no addendum is needed.  I now feel                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041334 -        comfortable experimenting to reduce statin and hiking                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
041335 -        treatments in order to reduce debilitating side effects.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
041336 -        Hopefully, less hiking can still maintain HDL say above 50, and                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041337 -        allow LDL to float in the range of 200 with reduced statin                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
041338 -        medication.  We can do another CCTA test next next year or in                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041339 -        18 months and adjust line of care to maintain favorable                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
041340 -        conditions reported in your study on 151019, as clarified by                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041341 -        you and Doctor Elicker. [...summarized above, ref SDS 0 8P52,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041342 -        and referencing the record on 160104 0855. ref SDS 16 X64K...].                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
041344 -         ..
041345 -    5.  None-the-less I would like to explore with you language that                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041346 -        might be helpful working with the cardiology team in my case,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041347 -        and further applying CCTA in the broader population, as                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
041348 -        integral to treating atherosclerosis for patients who regress                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041349 -        plaques by raising HDL through exercise.  There is a lot on the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041350 -        Internet reporting CCTA imaging studies for CABG patients [...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041351 -        listed in the record meeting with Doctor Alba on 140519 0800,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041352 -        ref SDS 3 OF7N...], yet there is great resistance in some                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041353 -        circles for this application. [...see also on 140519,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
041354 -        ref SDS 3 J83H, and recent meeting this year  with Doctor                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041355 -        Wisneski on 151005 1102. ref SDS 4 VZ4L...].                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
041357 -         ..
041358 -    6.  What then can be said to clarify results for CCTA on 151019,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041359 -        that will be professional and constructive to move the ball                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
041360 -        forward?  Your stellar background in medical research offers a                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041361 -        promising path.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041363 -         ..
041364 -    7.  As we discussed, we are not solely concerned with the bypass                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041365 -        grafts per se, but rather the active circulatory system.  Some                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041366 -        in Cardiology have commented that merely because bypass grafts                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041367 -        show no evidence of plaque, there could be plaque in other                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
041368 -        blood vessels that risks adverse events. [...referencing                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
041369 -        meeting with Doctor Wisneski on 151005 1102. ref SDS 4                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041370 -        RF7L...].                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
041372 -         ..
041373 -    8.  It might turn out that most (90%, 80%??) adverse events occur                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041374 -        from plaques in the coronary area, and so doing a broader CT                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041375 -        study is not cost effective.  But in considering efficacy of                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041376 -        reliance on CCTA to guide treatment for atherosclerosis, should                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041377 -        CT study be expanded to the abdomen, where you are an expert,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041378 -        the pelvis, etc?  I am not requesting expanded testing in this                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041379 -        case, but just asking about the general case.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041381 -         ..
041382 -    9.  Here is language to consider for an addendum...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
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041384 -        *********************                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
041385 -        "The 4 native blood vessels bypassed in CABG surgery on October                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041386 -        22, 2009, show increased interim plaque buildup with calcium                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041387 -        score of 1200(??), and present no risk to patient health.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
041389 -         ..
041390 -        The active circulatory system visible in the CT scan, and                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
041391 -        including the 4 bypass grafts, shows no evidence of                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
041392 -        calcification nor plaque build up of any kind or amount,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
041393 -        indicating substantial recovery from patient atherosclerosis                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041394 -        profile that required CABG surgery 6 years ago."                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
041395 -        *********************                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
041397 -         ..
041398 -   10.  I realize the addendum ultimately filed, if any, will be                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
041399 -        different.  This approach addresses the reason CCTA testing was                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041400 -        requested to provide evidence for reducing treatment that                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
041401 -        causes debilitating side effects, similar to CT testing in                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
041402 -        oncology.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
041404 -         ..
041405 -   11.  For example, I had forgotten we did a CT test on 091102, even                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041406 -        though it is reported in the record for the purpose of                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
041407 -        evaluating sudden elevated WBC that delayed discharge following                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041408 -        CABG - see discussion with Paula on 091102 line 045324.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
041409 -        ref SDS 2 RD8G                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
041411 -         ..
041412 -   12.  The report on that test makes no findings on atherosclerosis                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041413 -        plaques, calcium , etc. ref SDS 2 FR6G                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041415 -         ..
041416 -   13.  However, you and Colin evidently looked at that earlier scan                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041417 -        file to compare with your recent study on 151019.  As you know,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041418 -        the CT 6 years ago on 091102, covered the chest, abdomen and                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041419 -        pelvis, and so might provide a foundation to comprehensively                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041420 -        assess regression of plaques in relation to current and future                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041421 -        studies.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
041423 -         ..
041424 -   14.  Again, it was a pleasure meeting you.  Doctor Simpson who                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
041425 -        ordered the CCTA recognized it is an experiment to explore new                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041426 -        territory treating atherosclerosis, reported in a meeting on                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041427 -        151014 (see line 041766. ref SDS 5 OG3N                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041429 -         ..
041430 -   15.  Thanks very much for considering this initiative.  I am very                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041431 -        grateful for continued outstanding care by everyone at the VA                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041432 -        Medical Center in San Francisco.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
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