Welch Company
San Francisco, CA


S U M M A R Y


DIARY: December 13, 2010 07:17 AM Monday; Rod Welch

Windows 7 Access Denied permissions c17 DOS Forum research solution.

1...Summary/Objective


..............
Click here to comment!

CONTACTS 

SUBJECTS
DOSTips.com Forum Batch CMD Joined Request Support RD Command 00904.

2703 -
2703 -    ..
2704 - Summary/Objective
2705 -
270501 - Follow up ref SDS 9 0000. ref SDS 7 0000.
270502 -
270503 -
270504 -
270505 -
270507 -  ..
2706 -
2707 -
2708 - Progress
2709 -
270901 - Yesterday, found where code is hanging up on transferring files to the
270902 - Interent. 101212 1918, ref SDS 9 QN71
270904 -  ..
270905 - This follows up a week of trying to solve the permissions problem,
270906 - reported initially on 101204 2004. ref SDS 6 NG7G
270908 -  ..
270909 - This morning found DOS forum, and registered for assistance....
270910 -
270911 -              http://www.dostips.com/forum/
270913 -  ..
270914 - Received following letter confirming registration...
270915 -
270916 -    1.  Subject: Welcome to "DosTips.com"
270917 -        Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 13:33:55 -0500
270921 -         ..
270922 -    2.  Welcome to DosTips.com forums
270924 -         ..
270925 -    3.  Please keep this e-mail for your records. Your account
270926 -        information is as follows:
270931 -         ..
270932 -    4.  Board URL..........
270933 -
270934 -              http://www.dostips.com/forum
270936 -         ..
270937 -        DOS Batch Forum....
270938 -
270939 -              http://www.dostips.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=3
270941 -         ..
270942 -    5.  Please visit the following link in order to activate your
270943 -        account:
270944 -
270945 -              http://www.dostips.com/forum/ucp.php?mode=activate&u=1856&k=VL8QYCLGTT
270947 -         ..
270948 -    6.  Your password has been securely stored in our database and
270949 -        cannot be retrieved.  In the event that it is forgotten, you
270950 -        will be able to reset it using the email address associated
270951 -        with your account.
270953 -         ..
270954 -    7.  Thank you for registering.
270955 -
270956 -    8.  -- Happy posting!
270957 -
270958 -
270960 -  ..
270961 - Submitted following explanation for support...
270962 -
270963 -        1.  Subject:  remove directory W7 batch getting Access denied
270964 -            Date:  13 Dec 2010 1056
270965 -
270966 -        2.  Have been using a simple batch file for years running XP
270967 -            called from within a DOS app using start command, which
270968 -            calls following code to ftp records to my website.
270969 -            However, with new computer on w7 Ultimate, getting access
270970 -            denied on rd command, and thing fails. Here is current
270971 -            code...
270973 -             ..
270974 -        3.  @echo off
270975 -            c:
270976 -            cd\sd\10
270977 -            if exist c:\sd\td\ftpc del c:\sd\td\ftpc
270978 -            if exist c:\sd\wt goto gtfp
270979 -            goto end
270980 -            :gtfp
270981 -               **** note*** sf.exe builds a list of files with path for
270982 -            processing
270983 -            c:\sd\01\sf c:\sd\wt\ *.* >c:\sd\td\ftpc
270984 -               ***** e.exe **** editor formats the list for ftp op
270985 -               based on macros in 00904
270986 -            c:\sd\01\e c:\sd\td\ftpc c:\sd\03\00904
270987 -               ***** ftp ***** list of stuff to welchco and build an
270988 -               output log
270989 -            ftp -n ftp.welchco.com <c:\sd\td\ftpc >c:\sd\td\ftpl
270990 -            rd c:\sd\wt /s/q
270991 -                                                                                      exit
270992 -                                                                                exit
270993 -        4.  So everything works in XP, but W7 hangs on rd command with
270994 -            "Access denied." [...despite having set permissions on all
270995 -            partitions to "full control," reported on 101204 2004.
270996 -            ref SDS 6 FK8N...]
270998 -             ..
270999 -        5.  This op is launched from within SDS, an app based on
271000 -            e.exe. When the app is closed, then the rd command seems
271001 -            to execute.
271003 -             ..
271004 -        6.  Any suggestions to get rd to run in w7 like xp. Is there
271005 -            an environment variable that can be set to allow
271006 -            processing to complete.
271007 -
271008 -               [...below, received reply asking about setting
271009 -               permissions. ref SDS 0 M39K
271010 -
271017 -
271018 -
271020 -  ..
2711 -
2712 -
2713 - 1202
2714 -
271401 - Received initial response saying...
271402 -
271403 -        1.  Subject:  remove directory W7 batch getting Access denied
271404 -            Date:  13 Dec 2010 1130
271406 -             ..
271407 -        2.  Have you checked the NTFS permissions for the folder and
271408 -            verified that you can delete it without any UAC prompt?
271409 -            ...[responding to the letter submitted earlier today,
271410 -            shown above. ref SDS 0 AE3J...]
271411 -
271412 -               [...below, submitted response explaining permissions
271413 -               have been set, but not sure if this has been done
271414 -               thoroughly. ref SDS 0 M35W
271415 -
271417 -  ..
2715 -
2716 -
2717 - 1204
2718 -
271801 - Submitted reply saying...
271802 -
271803 -        1.  Subject:  remove directory W7 batch getting Access denied
271804 -            Date:  13 Dec 2010 1209
271806 -             ..
271807 -        2.  Hi,
271809 -             ..
271810 -        3.  Spent a week working with W7 "permissions" to set global
271811 -            policies that permit access to all files and directories.
271812 -            Think they are set, but don't know for sure.
271814 -             ..
271815 -        4.  c:sd\wt is a temporary directory constructed only when
271816 -            needed to hold path structure and files for transfer to the
271817 -            web.  When the batch op runs, the files and path structure
271818 -            are uploaded, and then it is intended to delete the path
271819 -            and files, for the next pass.  I can delete the path and
271820 -            files if I close SDS (where the op was launched), but that
271821 -            defeats the purpose of interactive work.  Hoping there is
271822 -            an environment setting or something that enables w7 to run
271823 -            like xp, so daily work is fast and smooth.
271825 -             ..
271826 -        5.  Thanks.
271827 -
271828 -
271830 -  ..
2719 -
2720 -
2721 - 1438
2722 -
272201 - Received response from Dostips.com saying...
272202 -
272203 -        1.  Subject:  remove directory W7 batch getting Access denied
272204 -            Date:  13 Dec 2010 1305
272206 -             ..
272207 -        2.  Not sure what SDC is but, it sounds like it is having
272208 -            trouble letting go of the directories. So, its not really
272209 -            a batch file issue but a compatibility issue with the
272210 -            program and Windows 7. Have you gone to the properties of
272211 -            the EXE and BAT files and told them to run in
272212 -            Compatibility mode for Windows XP.
272214 -  ..
2723 -
2724 -
2725 - 1537
2726 -
272601 - Submitted reply saying...
272602 -
272603 -        1.  Subject:  remove directory W7 batch getting Access denied
272604 -            Date:  13 Dec 2010 1612
272606 -             ..
272607 -        2.  Thanks for the tip on setting compatibility mode.
272609 -             ..
272610 -        3.  SDS is a macro application for an editor e.exe 16-bit
272611 -            assembler.  For past 2 years we have been building a Java
272612 -            version for new platforms.  Probably have another year of
272613 -            debugging before we can switch over, so need to run
272614 -            existing e.exe on w7, as we have for xp.
272616 -             ..
272617 -        4.  Tried setting compatiblity to xp sp3; that failed.  Tried
272618 -            w95 and that failed.
272620 -             ..
272621 -        5.  e.exe through the macro process calls a memory session with
272622 -            start command that launches e.exe again to apply html to a
272623 -            text file for display in a browser, and then writes the
272624 -            file to the disk with a command "savx" that creates a
272625 -            directory structure.  The code executes a quit command to
272626 -            cycle out of start memory and back to the batch op, which
272627 -            uploads all of the files to the web with directory
272628 -            structure so that all of the links are effective.
272630 -             ..
272631 -        6.  This record illustrates the objective of the software.
272632 -            Another example is the record on 041230 1400. ref SDS 2
272633 -            0000  Creating a web of records connecting chronology and
272634 -            context strives to augment human intelligence, as explained
272635 -            in NWO. ref OF 16 A56M
272636 -
272637 -               [On 101215 1443 discussed with HP case manager, Tony,
272638 -               toward getting assistance on w7 at HP. ref SDS 11 TF6O
272640 -             ..
272641 -        7.  Base directory on the local machine for temporary storage
272642 -            pending ftp transfer is...
272643 -
272644 -                    c:\sd\wt
272646 -             ..
272647 -        8.  c:\sd always exists; wt is the root level of temporary
272648 -            storage for this op, and so is created as needed, and then
272649 -            deleted each pass to start clean.
272651 -             ..
272652 -        9.  Properties for wt says...
272653 -
272654 -            Group or user names...
272655 -            Creator owner
272656 -            System
272657 -            Administrators (c17\Administrators)............c17 is the name of the computer
272659 -             ..
272660 -            Permissions for Creator Owner
272661 -            Full Control
272662 -            Modify
272663 -            Read & execute
272665 -             ..
272666 -       10.  All permissions, however, are blank. This seems to be the
272667 -            problem.  Set security in properties for c:\ to give
272668 -            everyone "full control," however, c:\sd does not show this.
272669 -            Manually made "everyone" have "full control" for c:\sd\
272671 -             ..
272672 -       11.  Ran the op to create...
272673 -
272674 -                  c:\sd\wt...
272676 -             ..
272677 -       12.  Properties shows everyone has "full control."
272679 -             ..
272680 -       13.  Deleting c:\sd\wt still fails with message... You need
272681 -            permission from administrator to make these changes."
272682 -
272683 -               [...below letter from Dostips.com asks about getting
272684 -               this error. ref SDS 0 X64G
272686 -             ..
272687 -       14.  Randomly checking the directory structure, it shows every
272688 -            level has the same security permissions - everyone full
272689 -            control.
272690 -
272691 -               [On 110105 0949 research on Internet found application
272692 -               that might solve "access denied" problem by running SDS
272693 -               with "System Privileges" to enable interactive dynamic
272694 -               creating and deleting directories needed for FTP
272695 -               transfers to Internet that provide anytime, anywhere
272696 -               intelligence. ref SDS 12 YS3U
272698 -             ..
272699 -       15.  Could this be a W7 error?
272701 -             ..
272702 -       16.  Thanks
272704 -             ..
272705 -       17.  Rod
272706 -
272708 -  ..
2728 -
2729 -
2730 - 2052
2731 -
273101 - Received response from Dostips.com saying...
273102 -
273104 -             ..
273105 -        1.  Subject:  remove directory W7 batch getting Access denied
273106 -            Date:  13 Dec 2010 2001
273108 -             ..
273109 -        2.  Do you get the error...
273110 -
273111 -                Quote:
273112 -                You need permission from administrator to make these
273113 -                changes
273114 -
273115 -            ...when you delete via explorer or command line (or both)?
273117 -  ..
273118 - This is the error w7 reports, as set out in letter to Dostips.com, per
273119 - above. ref SDS 0 IQ6T
273120 -
273121 -               [...below letter from Dostips.com confirms getting os
273122 -               error message. ref SDS 0 KW4K
273124 -  ..
273125 - Dostips.com letter continues...
273126 -
273127 -        3.  Have tried turning UAC all the way off?
273128 -
273129 -               [...below on 101213 1717 2139 letter asks Dostips.com
273130 -               for clarification on UAC. ref SDS 0 U15X
273132 -                ..
273133 -               [On 101214 1508 received explanation that UAC is User
273134 -               Account Control settings in Control Panal. ref SDS 10
273135 -               Q65I
273136 -
273137 -
273139 -  ..
2732 -
2733 -
2734 - 2139
2735 -
273501 - Submitted reply to Dostips.com saying...
273502 -
273503 -        1.  Subject:  remove directory W7 batch getting Access denied
273504 -            Date:  13 Dec 2010 2145
273506 -             ..
273507 -        2.  That is the system error [...citing Dostips response, per
273508 -            above, ref SDS 0 KW8H...], when deleting c:\sd\wt\
273509 -            directory from explorer, or using rd from the command
273510 -            prompt, until the SDS/DOS app is closed. [...and as stated
273511 -            in the letter to Dostips.com, per above. ref SDS 0 IQ6T...]
273513 -             ..
273514 -        3.  Please clarify turning "UAC" off?
273515 -
273516 -               [On 101214 1508 received explanation that UAC is User
273517 -               Account Control settings in Control Panal. ref SDS 10
273518 -               Q65I
273519 -
273526 -
273527 -
273528 -
273529 -
273530 -
273531 -
273532 -
273533 -
2736 -