Welch Company
San Francisco, CA
S U M M A R Y
DIARY: February 19, 2010 03:25 PM Friday;
Rod Welch
Called Microsoft activate Windows 7 64-bit operating system on c16.
1...Summary/Objective
2...Activate Windows 7 64-bit Operating System on C16 Product Key
....1...MICROSOFT SOFTWARE LICENSE TERMS
........WINDOWS 7 ULTIMATE
3...Activation Validation Invasion Privacy Access Windows 7 License Terms
4...Product Key Assigned Activate Windows 7 64-bit Operating System on C16
ACTION ITEMS..................
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1...Validation sounds like Microsoft is invading customer private property
2...It is not clear how assigning a product key to Windows 7 64-bit
CONTACTS
SUBJECTS
C16 Windows 7 64-bit Activate Operating System Problem Product Key F
1703 -
1703 - ..
1704 - Summary/Objective
1705 -
170501 - Follow up ref SDS 8 0000, ref SDS 7 0000.
170502 -
170503 -
170505 - ..
1706 -
1707 -
1708 - Progress
1709 -
170901 - Activate Windows 7 64-bit Operating System on C16 Product Key
170902 -
170903 - Earlier today, while installing pccillin virus protection software on
170904 - c16, ref SDS 8 JL6N, noticed the desktop screen color was changed to
170905 - black, and there was a notice in the lower right corner of the screen
170906 - saying that Windows 7 64-bit was not a genuine Microsoft installation.
170908 - ..
170909 - When this was mentioned during the call to the technical support rep
170910 - for Trend Micro, the rep explained that the Windows 7 64-bit operating
170911 - system has not been "activiated." This reflects the record of not
170912 - having used the Microsoft Windows 64-bit operating system software
170913 - since installation by Fry's on 091215, ref SDS 7 PQ5W, because there
170914 - is no software that runs on it. All the work with c16 so far has been
170915 - using Windows XP, as planned in procurement on 090623 1648.
170916 - ref SDS 2 OE4J
170918 - ..
170919 - After completing installation of pccillin on c16 for 64-bit operating
170920 - system, tried to activate Windows 7 64-bit.
170921 -
170922 - [...below, Microsoft Terms of Use, which have never before
170923 - been presented, explain "activation." ref SDS 0 JZ63
170925 - ..
170926 - Entered the product key reported in the record on 091109 1048.
170927 - ref SDS 5 2V4Y
170929 - ..
170930 - Got a message saying to buy a new product key.
170932 - ..
170933 - Clicked on the message saying to buy a new product key, but could not
170934 - find anything about getting another product key.
170936 - ..
170937 - Reviewed the record on 090710 showing how problems installing Windows
170938 - XP on c16 were solved by calling Microsoft. ref SDS 3 R44M
170940 - ..
170941 - Called Microsoft at...
170942 -
170943 - 800-642 7676
170945 - ..
170946 - Intially, technical support said the customer needs a new product
170947 - key, and so transferred the call to the sales department.
170949 - ..
170950 - The representative in the sales department said customers have to buy
170951 - another program to install Windows 7 32-bit and 64-bit in dual boot
170952 - mode.
170954 - ..
170955 - The sales rep cited language in the Microsoft customer agreement, but
170956 - was unable to submit the document. After about 30 minutes checking
170957 - Microsoft Internet resources, the sales representative said that
170958 - customers are responsible to know that buying Microsoft products with
170959 - Windows 7 32-bit and 64-bit code requires buying an additional product
170960 - package which yields 4 programs in order to install both Windows
170961 - 32-bit and 64-bit operating systems in dual boot mode.
170963 - ..
170964 - During the call the Microsoft supervisor on duty, Noel, submitted a
170965 - letter....
170966 -
170967 - 1. Subject: As per your request
170968 - Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:26:43 +0800
170975 - ..
170976 - 2. Attached herewith is the file you requested from my Agent.
170978 - ..
170979 - 3. Noel
170980 - (Supervisor on Duty)
170981 -
170982 -
170983 -
1710 -
SUBJECTS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Operating System Microsoft Software Licens
3503 -
350401 - ..
350402 - The attached file received from Microsoft says...
350403 -
350404 - 1. MICROSOFT SOFTWARE LICENSE TERMS
350405 -
350406 - WINDOWS 7 ULTIMATE
350407 -
350408 - These license terms are an agreement between Microsoft
350409 - Corporation (or based on where you live, one of its affiliates)
350410 - and you. Please read them. They apply to the software named
350411 - above, which includes the media on which you received it, if
350412 - any. Printed-paper license terms, which may come with the
350413 - software, may replace or modify any on-screen license terms.
350414 - The terms also apply to any Microsoft
350416 - ..
350417 - a. updates
350418 - b. supplements
350419 - c. Internet-based services, and
350420 - d. support services
350422 - ..
350423 - for this software, unless other terms accompany those items.
350424 - If so, those terms apply.
350425 -
350427 - ..
350428 - By using the software, you accept these terms. If you do not
350429 - accept them, do not use the software. Instead, return it to
350430 - the retailer for a refund or credit. If you cannot obtain a
350431 - refund there, contact Microsoft or the Microsoft affiliate
350432 - serving your country for information about Microsoft's refund
350433 - policies. See www.microsoft.com/worldwide. In the United
350434 - States and Canada, call (800) MICROSOFT or see
350435 -
350436 - http://www.microsoft.com/info/nareturns.htm.
350438 - ..
350439 - As described below, using the software also operates as your
350440 - consent to the transmission of certain computer information
350441 - during activation, validation and for Internet-based services.
350443 - ..
350444 - If you comply with these license terms, you have the rights
350445 - below for each license you acquire.
350446 -
350447 - 1. Overview.
350448 -
350449 - a. Software. The software includes desktop operating
350450 - system software. This software does not include
350451 - Windows Live services. Windows Live is a service
350452 - available from Microsoft under a separate agreement.
350454 - ..
350455 - b. License Model. The software is licensed on a per copy
350456 - per computer basis. A computer is a physical hardware
350457 - system with an internal storage device capable of
350458 - running the software. A hardware partition or blade is
350459 - considered to be a separate computer.
350461 - ..
350462 - Under this definition, c16 is 8 separate computers??
350464 - ..
350465 - MICROSOFT SOFTWARE LICENSE TERMS WINDOWS 7 ULTIMATE Continues...
350466 -
350467 - 2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS.
350468 -
350469 - a. One Copy per Computer. You may install one copy of the
350470 - software on one computer. That computer is the
350471 - "licensed computer."
350473 - ..
350474 - b. Licensed Computer. You may use the software on up to
350475 - two processors on the licensed computer at one time.
350476 - Unless otherwise provided in these license terms, you
350477 - may not use the software on any other computer.
350479 - ..
350480 - How does this apply to c16 quad core that has 4 processors?
350482 - ..
350483 - MICROSOFT SOFTWARE LICENSE TERMS WINDOWS 7 ULTIMATE Continues...
350484 -
350485 - c. Number of Users. Unless otherwise provided in these
350486 - license terms, only one user may use the software at a
350487 - time.
350489 - ..
350490 - d. Alternative Versions. The software may include more
350491 - than one version, such as 32-bit and 64-bit. You may
350492 - install and use only one version at one time.
350494 - ..
350495 - C16 applies this restriction. At any one time, only Windows XP,
350496 - Windows 7 32-bit or Windows 7 64-bit operating systms are being used.
350498 - ..
350499 - This does not say customers cannot dual boot the operating systems,
350500 - which has been an industry common practice for 30 years.
350502 - ..
350503 - MICROSOFT SOFTWARE LICENSE TERMS WINDOWS 7 ULTIMATE Continues...
350504 -
350505 - 3. ADDITIONAL LICENSING REQUIREMENTS AND/OR USE RIGHTS.
350506 -
350507 - [this section omitted.]
350508 -
350509 -
3506 -
SUBJECTS
Windows 7 Activation Validation Invasion Privacy Access License Term
6703 -
670401 - ..
670402 - Activation Validation Invasion Privacy Access Windows 7 License Terms
670403 -
670405 - ..
670406 - 4. MANDATORY ACTIVATION.
670407 -
670408 - Activation associates the use of the software with a
670409 - specific computer. During activation, the software will
670410 - send information about the software and the computer to
670411 - Microsoft. This information includes the version, language
670412 - and product key of the software, the Internet protocol
670413 - address of the computer, and information derived from the
670414 - hardware configuration of the computer. For more
670415 - information, see go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?Linkid=104609.
670416 - By using the software, you consent to the transmission of
670417 - this information. If properly licensed, you have the right
670418 - to use the version of the software installed during the
670419 - installation process up to the time permitted for
670420 - activation. Unless the software is activated, you have no
670421 - right to use the software after the time permitted for
670422 - activation. This is to prevent its unlicensed use. You are
670423 - not permitted to bypass or circumvent activation. If the
670424 - computer is connected to the Internet, the software may
670425 - automatically connect to Microsoft for activation. You can
670426 - also activate the software manually by Internet or
670427 - telephone. If you do so, Internet and telephone service
670428 - charges may apply. Some changes to your computer
670429 - components or the software may require you to reactivate
670430 - the software. The software will remind you to activate it
670431 - until you do.
670433 - ..
670434 - This seems to be the guidance for the work today trying to activate
670435 - the software.
670437 - ..
670438 - MICROSOFT SOFTWARE LICENSE TERMS WINDOWS 7 ULTIMATE Continues...
670439 -
670440 - 5. VALIDATION.
670441 -
670442 - a. Validation verifies that the software has been
670443 - activated and is properly licensed. It also verifies
670444 - that no unauthorized changes have been made to the
670445 - validation, licensing, or activation functions of the
670446 - software. Validation may also check for certain
670447 - malicious or unauthorized software related to such
670448 - unauthorized changes. A validation check confirming
670449 - that you are properly licensed permits you to continue
670450 - to use the software, certain features of the software
670451 - or to obtain additional benefits. You are not
670452 - permitted to circumvent validation. This is to prevent
670453 - unlicensed use of the software. For more information,
670454 - see...
670455 -
670456 - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?Linkid=104610.
670458 - ..
670459 - b. The software will from time to time perform a
670460 - validation check of the software. The check may be
670461 - initiated by the software or Microsoft. To enable the
670462 - activation function and validation checks, the software
670463 - may from time to time require updates or additional
670464 - downloads of the validation, licensing or activation
670465 - functions of the software. The updates or downloads
670466 - are required for the proper functioning of the software
670467 - and may be downloaded and installed without further
670468 - notice to you. During or after a validation check, the
670469 - software may send information about the software, the
670470 - computer and the results of the validation check to
670471 - Microsoft. This information includes, for example, the
670472 - version and product key of the software, any
670473 - unauthorized changes made to the validation, licensing
670474 - or activation functions of the software, any related
670475 - malicious or unauthorized software found and the
670476 - Internet protocol address of the computer. Microsoft
670477 - does not use the information to identify or contact
670478 - you. By using the software, you consent to the
670479 - transmission of this information. For more information
670480 - about validation and what is sent during or after a
670481 - validation check, see
670482 -
670483 - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?Linkid=104611.
670485 - ..
670486 - If, after a validation check, the software is found to
670487 - be counterfeit, improperly licensed, a non-genuine
670488 - Windows product, or include unauthorized changes, the
670489 - functionality and experience of using the software
670490 - will be affected, for example:
670492 - ..
670493 - Microsoft may...
670494 -
670495 - a. repair the software, remove, quarantine or disable
670496 - any unauthorized changes that may interfere with
670497 - the proper use of the software, including
670498 - circumvention of the activation or validation
670499 - functions of the software, or
670501 - ..
670502 - b. check and remove malicious or unauthorized software
670503 - known to be related to such unauthorized changes,
670504 - or
670506 - ..
670507 - c. provide notices that the software is improperly
670508 - licensed or a non-genuine Windows product
670509 -
670511 - ..
670512 - This seems to have occurred in this case, which led to working with
670513 - Microsoft on activation today, per above. ref SDS 0 MN6K
670515 - ..
670516 - Validation sounds like Microsoft is invading customer private property
670517 - without notice to inspect and make changes. ref SDS 0 02RV
670519 - ..
670520 - Source to turn Windows 7 Automatic Updates Off...
670521 -
670522 - http://www.thewindowsplanet.com/how-to-turn-onoff-windows-7-automatic-updates
670523 -
670525 - ..
670526 - MICROSOFT SOFTWARE LICENSE TERMS WINDOWS 7 ULTIMATE Continues...
670527 -
670528 - ...and you may...
670529 -
670530 - a. receive reminders to obtain a properly licensed
670531 - copy of the software, or
670533 - ..
670534 - b. need to follow Microsoft's instructions to be
670535 - licensed to use the software and reactivate,
670536 -
670537 - ...and you may not be able to...
670539 - ..
670540 - a. use or continue to use the software or some of the
670541 - features of the software, or
670543 - ..
670544 - b. obtain certain updates or upgrades from Microsoft
670545 -
670546 -
6706 -
SUBJECTS
C16 Windows 7 64-bit Activate Operating System Problem Solved Produc
9003 -
900401 - ..
900402 - Product Key Assigned Activate Windows 7 64-bit Operating System on C16
900403 -
900404 - On 091109 purchased Windows 7 Ultimate for c16 from Fry's, ref SDS 5
900405 - D83M, and shows product key for installing Windows 7 32-bit and 64-bit
900406 - in dual boot configuration. ref SDS 5 2V4Y
900407 -
900410 - ..
900411 - Explained suddenly getting error message saying customers needs a
900412 - product key for activation of Windows 7 64-bit configuration.
900414 - ..
900415 - Sales representative eventually transferred to call to a team in
900416 - India.
900418 - ..
900419 - Talked to Deepak Jindal with Microsoft Windows Technical Support.
900421 - ..
900422 - Reference number....
900423 -
900424 - SRX1125481906ID
900426 - ..
900427 - Deepak assigned a new product key for Windows 7 64-bit operating
900428 - system installed on c16 with Windows 7 32-bit operating system...
900432 - ..
900433 - After the call, Windows 7 32-bit now shows the same product key, which
900434 - Deepak assigned to the Windows 7 64-bit operating system, rather than
900435 - the product key listed in the software delivery package, shown on
900436 - 091109. ref SDS 5 2V4Y
900438 - ..
900439 - Later, however, on December 9, 2010 examining c16....
900440 -
900441 - Control Panel
900442 - System and Security
900443 - System
900445 - ..
900446 - Product ID says...
900447 -
900450 - ...which changes only the last 3 digits of the ID number, per above.
900451 - ref SDS 0 7260
900453 - ..
900454 - It is not clear how assigning a product key to Windows 7 64-bit
900455 - operating system changed the product key for Windows 7 32-bit
900456 - operating system, which was not active at time of the initial change
900457 - accomplished by Deepak??
900459 - ..
900460 - Additional problems to solve....
900461 -
900462 - 1. Csmenu configured by Microsoft on somehow became inactive, and
900463 - will not re-install, evidently due to some flaw in Windows 7
900464 - registry.
900465 -
900466 - 2. Quicklaunch configure for Windows 7 64-bit similar to Windows 7
900467 - 32-bit configured by Microsoft on 091124. ref SDS 6 KI5N
900469 - ..
900470 - 3. Sort order of file listings in directories requires revising
900471 - Windows 7 registry, similar to Windows XP, reported on 090715
900472 - 2146, ref SDS 4 619F, and using guidance on 041118 to reset
900473 - standard sort order for navigating directory file lists.
900474 - ref SDS 1 6U5K
900476 - ..
900477 - 4. Automatic updates and any other intrusive access to customers
900478 - computer should be turned off to avoid invasion of privacy.
900480 - ..
900481 - 5. Directory listing from Explorer on Taskbar for c16 should list
900482 - directories, and not all the other stuff, e.g., library,
900483 - network, et al.
900484 -
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900486 -
900487 -
900488 -
900489 -
900490 -
900491 -
9005 -