CONTACTS 
0201 - PG&E Trans Sys Engineering         415 973 3877 fax 9209
020101 - Mr. Jivat Gidvani, E.E.
020102 - Engineer; Rm 580, Mail Code F5C =415 973 3877

SUBJECTS
Transmission Line Design, PG&E
SLO Hydro Tie Line
Engineering, Material Lead Time
Transfer Trip

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1007 - Summary/Objective
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100801 - Followed up work at ref SDS 8 line 92.
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101201 - Jivat left message returning my call from yesterday.  I called back
101202 - and left message.
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1015 - 0953 Jivat called back
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101601 - He indicated he can design the transfer trip system without having
101602 - the control room layout, but that he wants to review the control
101603 - room layout to see how CDWR will make certain connections and that
101604 - there is adequate space for PG&E to perform its work.
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101606 - As a result, I will modify this part of the notes.
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SUBJECTS
Transmission Line Design, PG&E
SLO Hydro Tie Line
Engineering, Material Lead Time
Transfer Trip
CDWR & PG&E plan change in SLO Hydro work
SLO Hydro Interconnection
Meetings; Meeting Notes, confirm understandings
Anger, Frustruations from Erroneous Meeting

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181101 - Follow up discussions at ref SDS 6 line 176, and his note revisions
181102 - at ref SDS 8 line 137.
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181104 - Transfer Trip Deferred
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181106 - Jivat said he has a call in to Tom Marki, that there is now a strong
181107 - possibility that PG&E can construct the tie line to provide power for
181108 - the valves, without a transfer trip.  The Line Protection group needs
181109 - to sign off, but Jivat seemed to think that can occur.
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181112 -  ..
181113 - Meeting Note Revisions
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181115 - Jivat feels very strongly that he wants to remove the following from
181116 - the notes which had been entered at ref SDS 5 5773.
181117 -
181118 -     Solutions
181119 -
181120 -     Some options to provide power to the valves were considered as
181121 -     follows:
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181123 -     1.  CDWR construct the Control Room in advance of the Power
181124 -         Plant, in order to support the Transfer Trip system.
181125 -
181126 -     2.  Build an interim control room exclusively for the transfer
181127 -         trip system, until the full facilities are constructed at a
181128 -         future time.
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181130 -     3.  Construct separate power "distribution" system to service the
181131 -         valves independent of the Tie Line.
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181133 -     4.  Provide interim generators for the valve system.
181134 -
181135 -     5.  Construct the Tie Line under alternate Line Protection
181136 -         standards, e.g., omit transfer trip equipment.
181137 -
181138 -     Tom Marki said PG&E will submit comments to assist CDWR in its
181139 -     design considerations.  Bill DeHart suggested contacting Glenn
181140 -     Rounds for input.
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181142 - Jivat wants to replace the above per his recommendations received
181143 - yesterday at ref SDS 8 6338.
181144 -
181145 - I asked about the rationale for omitting a broader range of options
181146 - available to CDWR?
181147 - ..
181148 - Jivat does not recall that the above language was said at the
181149 - meeting, and therefore he wants to omit it.  He believes the options
181150 - were discussed only between us while driving back from the meeting on
181151 - 941208. ref SDS 4 7748  I pointed out that Kevin, Tito, Bill and Lori
181152 - have reviewed the meeting notes and have not objected to including
181153 - these options.
181154 -
181155 -     Jivat was pointed and direct in expressing his strong feeling that
181156 -     understandings which are different from his recollections are not
181157 -     accurate and useful to convey in the meeting notes, reflecting
181158 -     adherence to training and experience similar to Jeff Ghilardi's
181159 -     initial exposure to using the SDS notice methods on 880908. see,
181160 -     ref SDS 1 4920
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181162 -     Therefore, I did not mention my sense that it is a good idea to
181163 -     show in the record that CDWR has options to solve problems for
181164 -     which PG&E is not responsible, per work on 941213. ref SDS 8 8533
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181166 - If Jivat's only concern was that these options were not expressly
181167 - discussed in the manner shown in the notes, I could simply list them
181168 - as options, without indicating they were "considered."  He indicated
181169 - this morning they are valid options, but that it is unnecessary to
181170 - list them.  So he has a strong concern about this matter that is not
181171 - clear.
181172 -
181173 -     This is part of the meeting note scope issue raised by Jeff
181174 -     Ghilardi at ref SDS 1 line 102; relates to management skills in
181175 -     "Meetings."
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181177 - In any event, since we have the options, I will omit them from the
181178 - notes and use the language Jivat wants.
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181180 - Jivat's strong objection reflects the emotionalism that creeps into
181181 - communication and needs to be channelled constructively.  If I had
181182 - insisted on including this material, it could have involved other
181183 - members of the team and PG&E management on the ancilliary issue of
181184 - meeting note content.
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181186 - In this case, I entered the record as Jivat wants it, and cite the
181187 - record that has the missing material, so that the knowledge and ideas
181188 - it contains are not lost, but remain available for future use.  This
181189 - seems like an example of a viable use of conflict without having it
181190 - escalate to unnecessary confrontation.
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181192 -     [On 970123 explanation of constructive confrontation is used at
181193 -     Intel, ref SDS 9 0000.]
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