THE WELCH COMPANY
440 Davis Court #1602
San Francisco, CA 94111-2496
415 781 5700
rodwelch@pacbell.net
S U M M A R Y
DIARY: October 12, 2007 12:23 PM Friday;
Rod Welch
Called for legal support Kaiser Appeals Committee hearing.
1...Summary/Objective
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Kaiser Payment Millie's Treatment Cntinuing Care Referral UCSF Clin
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040501 - Follow up ref SDS 23 0000, ref SDS 22 0000.
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0408 - Progress
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040901 - Called a bunch of lawyers today, including the Contra Costa Lawyers
040902 - Referral Service to research experience working with Kaiser's MCRC
040903 - Appeasl Committee based on the letter from Paula received on 071010.
040904 - ref SDS 23 R16K
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040907 - Nobody seems to be litigating Kaiser Senior Advantage Medicare
040908 - insurance coverage issues.
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040911 - Geoffrey White in San Francisco..... 415 362 5658
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040913 - Geoffrey V. White, Esq
040914 - 351 California St #1500
040915 - San Francisco, CA 94194
040916 - 415 362 4548
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040919 - http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Geoffrey+White+lawyer+San+Francisco
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040922 - Practice is listed as....
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040924 - civil rights
040925 - employment and labor law
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040928 - Geoffrey has practiced in health insurance law. He asked about the
040929 - case.
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040932 - Millie's case arises from UCSF claim against Millie to recover costs
040933 - of "coinsurance" for treatment in clinical trial. Background is
040934 - reported in the record meeting with UCSF on 070830. ref SDS 12 T14M as
040935 - set out in UCSF letter on 070912, reveiwed on 070917. ref SDS 15 596Q
040936 - UCSF relies on CMS section 69.9. ref SDS 15 4P4I
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040939 - The dispute is actually with Kaiser who made the referral and agreed
040940 - in correspondence on 061230 to pay any costs not covered by the
040941 - clinical trial. ref SDS 5 3X6K UCSF explained Kaiser's refusal to pay
040942 - for referral on 070830. ref SDS 12 NQ3F
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040945 - Kaiser claims that despite having made referral, Kaiser avoids paying
040946 - for clinical trial services, because Medicare law conveys a benefit
040947 - that patients can "self-refer" without authorization of the doctor to
040948 - particiapte in clinical trials for advancing medical science that
040949 - improves treatements. In that case, Medicare pays for 80% of costs,
040950 - and patients are liable for 20%.
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040953 - Millie did not self-refer. Kaiser prescribed treatment on referral to
040954 - UCSF on 070105, ref SDS 6 PK68, in performing Kaiser's duty to provide
040955 - standard of care for oncology practice explained earlier on 040318,
040956 - ref SDS 3 PU6M, and not withstanding provision in Evidence of Coverage
040957 - (EOC) received OA 070101 that says patients have to pay for
040958 - coinsurance, reviewed on 070927. ref SDS 18 1F92
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040961 - Kaiser submitted guidance on 070829 that says patients "may" incur
040962 - conisurance expense, which leaves open that Kaiesr can prescribe
040963 - treatment on referral. ref SDS 11 RA85
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040966 - Statutory authorty in Title IV part 419.40 discusses coinsurance,
040967 - reviewed on 070917. ref SDS 15 4Q3I
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040970 - We need to find legal authority (presumably within Title IV) that
040971 - conveys benefits to Medicare patients for "self-referral," in oder to
040972 - assess whether this precludes Kaiser, as an HMO service provider under
040973 - Senior Advantage, from prescribing treatment on referral, i.e., are
040974 - doctor referrals per se patient self-referrals, per question to CMS on
040975 - 071002? ref SDS 19 OY4Q
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040978 - Millie wants to continue treatment at UCSF, and has four (4) concerns
040979 - about agreeing to pay coinsurance, apart from cost, listed on 070830.
040980 - ref SDS 12 T94H This was confirmed in a letter to UCSF on 070924.
040981 - ref SDS 17 UL5R
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