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0905 -    ..
0906 - Summary/Objective
0907 -
090701 - Follow up ref SDS 13 0000. ref SDS 10 0000.
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090707 -
090709 -  ..
0908 -
0909 -
0910 - Discussion
0911 -
091101 - Jackie introduced Jonathan in IT security.
091102 -
091103 - Jackie asked for further discussion about the incident last year when
091104 - a Aerospace company document wound up by accident on the Internet.
091106 -  ..
091107 - Jonathan asked if the SDS program was involved?
091109 -  ..
091110 - Jonathan said he has not had time to review the documents Jackie
091111 - submitted for background, but plans to make a careful review to
091112 - complete the work on this matter.
091114 -  ..
091115 - The details on how a Aerospace company document got on the Internet
091116 - are not clear in the record.  The best source is the project staff.
091117 - The SDS program itself has no tools nor connections to the Internet
091118 - that would enable a user to cause a document or anything else to wind
091119 - up on the Internet.  There is no accident nor any kind of sequential
091120 - steps that could cause a document to exist on the Internet, as a
091121 - result of using the SDS program either according to design, or by some
091122 - chance inadvertance.
091123 -
091124 -    We did not discuss the general concern about SDS being a creature
091125 -    of the Interent based on industry and government projects to create
091126 -    technology using Java and XML tools for widely held aspirations to
091127 -    develop web applications variously called "knowledge management,"
091128 -    "knowledge repository," "collective intelligence," "dynamic
091129 -    knowledge repository," "paperless office," "virtual office," and
091130 -    the like.  During a meeting in Paris reported on 970222, Bill Gates
091131 -    with Microsoft and Larry Ellison with Oracle described these
091132 -    general goals. ref SDS 1 8529
091134 -     ..
091135 -    Based on this industry wide perspective, Jonathan may feel that the
091136 -    problem of a Aerospace company document getting on the Internet is suggestive
091137 -    that SDS is an Internet application.  This error happens often.  An
091138 -    example is the report last year on 030527 when Pat Lincoln at SRI
091139 -    disclosed that for two (2) years he and his boss, the CEO of SRI,
091140 -    Curt Carlson, had been under the impression that SDS is an Internet
091141 -    application. ref SDS 2 ZU3G
091143 -     ..
091144 -    As explained on 030527, SDS architecture applies the binary
091145 -    structure of human cognition, and this makes the interface with the
091146 -    Internet, external, separate and and foreign to SDS, as set out in
091147 -    POIMS. ref SDS 2 K49J  As such, SDS has no capability to place
091148 -    anything on the Internet.
091150 -  ..
091151 - Jonathan asked if Welch needs access to the Aerospace company intranet
091152 - or other Aerospace company resources in order to support the loan
091153 - agreement on SDS?
091155 -  ..
091156 - We reviewed Jackie's letter on 040318 asking if Welch requires access
091157 - to the Aerospace company intranet. ref SDS 8 PQYW  At that time, I
091158 - called Jackie and explained that no access to the Aerospace company
091159 - intranet is required. ref SDS 8 6O3F  A letter was submitted to Jackie
091160 - confirming this. ref SDS 8 038A  Later, Gil Caughman, who is the Op
091161 - Manager for M&S, sent another letter to Jackie confirming that Welch
091162 - does not require access to the Aerospace company intranet nor to other
091163 - Aerospace company resources. ref SDS 8 G46N
091165 -  ..
091166 - Jonathan said he has not seen those letters, but will look for them
091167 - in making his review of the documents Jackie submitted.
091169 -  ..
091170 - Jackie will contact Gil Caughman for research on how a Aerospace
091171 - company document got on the Internet, and will submit follow up to
091172 - Jonathan.
091174 -  ..
091175 - Jonathan asked about Welch support for the SDS program?
091177 -  ..
091178 - There will be ongoing support on application and improvements that
091179 - evolve from the evalation process.  An example is the record
091180 - yesterday. ref SDS 12 0001
091182 -  ..
091183 - Jonathan analogized SDS to Microsoft programs that are entirely in
091184 - the control of the user.
091186 -  ..
091187 - Jonathan indicated he is satisfied about these matters, pending review
091188 - of information from Jackie on inquiry with the M&S staff.
091190 -  ..
091191 - After talking to Jonathan, discussed briefly Jackie's concerns
091192 - yesterday, about over exuberence in the letter to the M&S group on
091193 - 040402. ref SDS 13 QM4X
091195 -  ..
091196 - Jackie clarified her concerns yesterday, that the tone of the letter
091197 - on 040402 seemed to imply that Aerospace company has made a commitment to buy
091198 - SDS.
091200 -  ..
091201 - We agreed this is an error, since the loan agreement only entails
091202 - using SDS for a year to evaluate the program.  There is nothing in the
091203 - letter on 040402 that discusses a commitment by Aerospace company to purchase
091204 - SDS, however the tone may send a mixed signal.
091206 -  ..
091207 - Jackie seemed to indicate this morning that the legal department has,
091208 - also, requested information on the letter to the M&S group.
091210 -  ..
091211 - She plans to call Gil Caughman for more information on the letter
091212 - issued to M&S on 040402. ref DRP 3 0001
091214 -  ..
091215 - An example of issues which Jackie needs to clarify...
091216 -
091217 -    1.  The first sentence says SDS has been approved for use on Aerospace company
091218 -        computers. ref DRP 3 0001
091220 -         ..
091221 -    2.  The last para talks about training others to use SDS.
091222 -        ref DRP 3 016W
091224 -         ..
091225 -        These para, depending on implementation, could be conflicting
091226 -        with para 4a in the agreement terms and conditions calling for
091227 -        use on one (1) computer, ref OF 2 1H4V, which avoids undue risk
091228 -        to Welch of improper distribution of the property involved.
091230 -  ..
091231 - Jackie can submit a letter replying to the copy of the letter on
091232 - 040402 which she recieved, and clarify these points that use on more
091233 - than one computer will require additional authorization from
091234 - Procurement.
091236 -  ..
091237 - Jackie asked about the relationship between Gary and Gil
091238 - Caughman?
091240 -  ..
091241 - We discussed general understanding that Gil is the Operations Manager
091242 - for the M&S group where Gary works as a subcontractor.  More details
091243 - can be obtained from Gil and Gary on site.
091245 -  ..
091246 - Jackie will contact Gil, who is listed in the loan agreement as the
091247 - point person for Aerospace company in the loan agreement.
091249 -  ..
091250 - Jackie seemed pleased that we made progress with Jonathan, and
091251 - indicated she will expedite resolution of pending issues.
091253 -  ..
091254 - Submitted an email to Jackie with copies to Gil and Gary.
091255 -
091256 -    1.  Subject: SDS Procurement Telecon Jackie and Jonathan
091257 -        Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 09:55:01 -0700
091258 -        From: Rod Welch
091263 -         ..
091264 -    2.  Jackie,
091265 -
091266 -        Thanks for bird dogging pending issues you raised in the telecon
091267 -        this morning with Jonathan, in IT Security.
091269 -         ..
091270 -    3.  Jonathan asked about requirements for Welch to have access to
091271 -        the Aerospace company intranet.  We reviewed your letter on March 18, and
091272 -        the follow up discussion that established Welch requires no
091273 -        access to the Aerospace company intranet nor to other Aerospace company resources.
091274 -        This was confirmed in a letter on March 18; and, Gil Caughman,
091275 -        listed as the Aerospace company contact for the Loan Agreement, sent a
091276 -        letter to you, also, on the 18th confirming these
091277 -        understandings.
091279 -         ..
091280 -    4.  Jonathan explained that he has not had time to review the
091281 -        documents you submitted on the transaction, but plans to make a
091282 -        careful study.  He indicated that pending his review, he feels
091283 -        better about this issue, based on the discussion this morning.
091285 -         ..
091286 -    5.  You plan to contact Gil Caughman on how a Aerospace company document wound
091287 -        up on the Internet last year, and you will submit information
091288 -        on this to support Jonathan's review.
091290 -         ..
091291 -    6.  You also plan to clarify the scope of the loan agreement with
091292 -        Gil in relation to a letter on April 4.  In particular, Welch
091293 -        is concerned that para 4a be followed calling for use on only
091294 -        one computer.  This may conflict with the first and last para
091295 -        of the letter to M&S on April 4, so clarification is helpful.
091297 -         ..
091298 -    7.  Finally, you asked about the relationship between Gary
091299 -        and Gil Caughman, and will discuss this with Gil when you call
091300 -        him on the other matters.
091302 -         ..
091303 -    8.  Thanks very much for timely follow up.
091305 -         ..
091306 -    9.  Rod
091308 -         ..
091309 -   10.  PS.  Please forward to Jonathan, per our telecon with him this
091310 -        morning.
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