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DIARY: July 21, 2000 09:19 AM Friday;
Joe Ransdell develops issue of literacy and orality.
2...Dialog Critical Thinking Tradition Begun by Plato
3...Writing Dialogs Illustreated Feedback Process During Plato's Time
4...Feedback Interactivity Critical Factor in Orality and Literacy
5...Meaning Drift Explained by Cog Science, But Not Solved
6...Knowledge Space Improves Understanding Through Connected Environment
7...Understanding Improved by Context, Reward Using SDS
8...Links in SDS Aid Understanding Theory and Practice
9...Communication Process Same for Self, As for Others with SDS
10...Communication Not Focus of Philosophy But Driving Force of Management
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0201 - Texas Tech University O-00000761 0504
020101 - Mr. Joseph M. Ransdell; Associate Professor O-00000761 0504
020103 - Department of Philosophy O-00000761 0504
Communication, Orality, Literacy, Plato
Talking, Writing, Literacy
Feedback Provides Metric
Writing Improves Understanding
Writing Structured Improves Knowledge Management
Knowledge Management Dilemma Balance Summary and Complexity
Time KM Dilemma Immediate Response in Conversation, Reflection Deferr
Deferred Reward or Immediate Action in Conversation KM Delimma
Feedback Metrics Meeting Notes Improve Productivity Lessons Learned
Garden Eden Grazing Foraging Information Overload Email Meetings No T
Knowledge Dilemma Fear Accountability Brought by Knowledge
Deferred Rewards Defy Common Sense
2114 - ..
2115 - Summary/Objective
211601 - Follow up ref SDS 83 0000, ref SDS 82 0000.
211603 - Joe seems to support understanding from his letter yesterday that in
211604 - Plato's time feedback was missing from writing. Plato therefore wrote
211605 - dialogs featuring Socrates to illustrate controlled dialog for
211606 - critical analysis using inquiry. He does not address Congintive
211607 - Science in detail, but notes this discipline does not provide a
211608 - solution for meaning drift. ref SDS 0 7650
211618 - ..
2118 - Progress
211901 - ..
211902 - Dialog Critical Thinking Tradition Begun by Plato
211903 - Writing Dialogs Illustreated Feedback Process During Plato's Time
211904 - Feedback Interactivity Critical Factor in Orality and Literacy
211906 - Follow up ref SDS 83 4576.
211908 - Received ref DRT 1 0001 from Joe responding to my letter, ref DIP 2
211909 - 0001, sent yesterday, responding to Joe's letter explaining Plato's
211910 - worry that Socrates' method of inquiry that used controlled dialog
211911 - that later led to the modern scientific method of inquiry, explained
211912 - by Joe on 000716, ref SDS 78 0785, was threatened by early use of
211913 - writing simply for recording speeches of the day. ref SDS 83 3652
211915 - ..
211916 - Joe points out today that in Plato's time Socrates' method of
211917 - interactive dialogue was critically structured, and monological
211918 - discourse used for political speeches functioned only to persuade.
211919 - Plato was against giving speeches because it does not permit
211920 - interactivity that keeps it under control. That is why he wrote only
211921 - dialogues. The problem with writing is that it seems to be
211922 - self-sufficient, not requiring response in order to be complete,
211923 - whereas all logical control requires an on-going sequence of
211924 - interactivity. ref DRT 1 0648
211926 - ..
211927 - Joe further points out that the written word enables the writer to
211928 - hide out when it comes time to be responsive. It functions as a
211929 - defense for dogmatism, which is a kind of stupidity. The dialogue as
211930 - written form is intended to defeat the inherently dogmatic tendencies
211931 - in the written word. Joe mentions the missing ingredient is feedback.
211932 - ref DRT 1 3081
211934 - This seems to support the record on 000720 showing that feedback
211935 - timing was the defect in early forms of writing that worried
211936 - Plato. In Plato's time, this had not been worked out for writing,
211937 - i.e., they didn't have email, nor even ordinary mail for continual
211938 - exchange; but, Socrates had developed a method that seemed helpful
211939 - for dialog. ref SDS 83 2960 Then, as now, people were focusing on
211940 - the externals of what seemed to work best, under the limitations
211941 - at the time, rather than the underlying design of human mental
211942 - biology, i.e., architecture, per POIMS. ref OF 1 0367
211944 - ..
211945 - Today, we make the same mistake. We look around and see everyone
211946 - is using email, and jump to the conclusion that technology needs
211947 - to promote that medium to accomplish Knowledge Management, or at
211948 - least to improve management productivity, as proposed on 000505,
211949 - ref SDS 56 3000; rather than look at the underlying character of
211950 - cognition, to ascertain what is being produced by the management
211951 - process, eventually, and then build something that helps do that
211952 - faster, better and cheaper. As Jack Park noted on 000504, can't
211953 - do it with an email system. ref SDS 55 6138
211955 - ..
211956 - Joe does not comment today on the notice in the letter to him
211957 - yesterday explaining SDS is aimed at achieving a better balance
211958 - between dialog and analysis, ref DIP 2 0686, by adding "intelligence"
211959 - to information, noted yesterday. ref SDS 83 4902
Meaning Drift Occurs in Writing and Verbal Communication
Meaning Maintain Shared Over Time
Meaning Drift Causes Bumbling Murphy's Law
Meaning Build and Maintain Shared, Over Time
Meaning Derived Common Patterns of Language Experience
410801 - ..
410802 - Meaning Drift Explained by Cog Science, But Not Solved
410804 - Follow up ref SDS 83 2685
410806 - Joe seems to recognize in his first letter this morning that cognitive
410807 - science provides an explanation for meaning drift, and other
410808 - limitations of human cognition; he, also, observes cognitive science
410809 - does not offer solutions. ref DRT 1 2360
410811 - ..
410812 - There is no discussion of the problem to discover "secrets" people
410813 - have from themselves that makes communication the biggest risk in
410814 - enterprise due to information overload, set out in the letter to Joe
410815 - on 000719, ref DIP 1 7735, ref SDS 82 4020, per analysis on 000717.
410816 - ref SDS 79 0006 The microcosm of mental thought set out yesterday on
410817 - 000720, has not been submitted to Joe. ref SDS 83 2448
SDS Record on Web Illustrates POIMS, Com Metrics, Ransdell
SDS on Web Illustrates Usefulness of SDS, Com Metrics, 000716
Understanding KM SDS Com Metrics, Aided by Links
Links Help Understanding of KM
Linking Adds Value Writing:
Link Cause Effect Objectives, Intelligence Metrics Traceability
SDS on Web Demonstrates SDS, POIMS, Com Metrics
Understanding Time Chronology Experience Causation
Context Meaning Understanding Comprehension Conntected Text
Ransdell, Communication Process Same for Self and Others Using SDS
Communication Main Factor of Successful Management
Communication Failing on Information Highway
SDS Aids Understanding Using Intelligence Cycle that Converts Informa
Ransdell SDS Enhances Understanding Intelligence Cycle Converts Infor
671701 - ..
671702 - Knowledge Space Improves Understanding Through Connected Environment
671703 - Understanding Improved by Context, Reward Using SDS
671704 - Links in SDS Aid Understanding Theory and Practice
671705 - Communication Process Same for Self, As for Others with SDS
671707 - Follow up ref SDS 79 0002.
671709 - In a second letter, ref DRT 2 0001 Joe supplements his initial
671710 - response to my letter yesterday, ref DIP 2 0001....
671712 - ..
671713 - He explains his view of communication is different from skills, which
671714 - he feels I have in mind in citing weaknesses of oral communication to
671715 - guide future conduct, cited on 991108. ref SDS 30 4505 Joe agrees
671716 - that communication as a verbal exchange intended to guide future
671717 - conduct is relatively trivial. ref DRT 2 6840
671719 - This point needs some reference pointers for orientation.
671721 - ..
671722 - Joe explains SDS "intelligence" cycle in POIMS has a structure that
671723 - aids communication and analysis. He says SDS supports analysing and
671724 - managing anything, and aids understanding through communication. He
671725 - says... "I find myself brought into your world exploring the links.
671726 - This makes good on the idea that thought in general can be regarded as
671727 - having a communicational form, since there is no important difference
671728 - to be drawn logically between self-communication and communication
671729 - with others: SDS obviously informs the one as much as the other and in
671730 - the same way." ref DRT 2 4278
671732 - [On 001027 Paul Fernhout formed ideas about meaning and
671733 - understanding from SDS and Com Metrics. ref SDS 84 SY9H
671735 - ..
671736 - [On 040312 review Doctor Henry Folse, philosophical professor
671737 - at Loyala University, book on Neils Bohr presents philosophy
671738 - of complementarity as the foundation of quantum mechanics that
671739 - bridges the macro world of life experienced through sensory
671740 - perception, and the microscopic world where exponential change
671741 - in scale prevents common experience, ref SDS 85 Z29O, thus
671742 - presenting a problem of "communication," as Doctor Ransdell
671743 - explains on 000716, ref SDS 78 0968, indicating Folse might
671744 - have similar philosophical interest in SDS.
671746 - ..
671747 - Joe's analysis indicates SDS supports semiotics concept of
671748 - communication, meaning and inference, from reviewing his 1997
671749 - paper in the record on 000713. ref SDS 75 4176
671751 - ..
671752 - Joe seems to support POIMS and NWO... objectives for SDS to lift
671753 - the capacity to think, remember and communicate. ref OF 1 6528
671755 - ..
671756 - On 000716 Joe's letter helped clarify how SDS supports scientific
671757 - process. ref SDS 78 0192
671760 - ..
671761 - Communication Not Focus of Philosophy But Driving Force of Management
671763 - Joe explains that in mainstream philosophy there is still only a dim
671764 - awareness of the importance of communication concepts, and this shows
671765 - up in many ways. Typically, though, it shows up whenever one finds
671766 - somebody bringing communicational concepts in too late, as it were,
671767 - after having tried to give a basic account without recourse to them.
671768 - (I see this being done again and again at present in philosophy of
671769 - science where it is clear that the social character of science cannot
671770 - be ignored any longer but the philosophers of science don't know how
671771 - to handle it since everything has always been based on the notion of
671772 - the individual person as basic.) Communication is just tacked on, as
671773 - it were. And as so conceived, communication is necessarily only a
671774 - relatively trivial aspect of whatever it is that one is concerned
671775 - with. ref DRT 2 6804
671777 - ..
671778 - A question arises from Joe's comment here that communication is
671779 - not a major focus in philosophy. Peirce was a philosopher and
671780 - his work in semiotics directly addresses communication along with
671781 - meaning and inference, per the record on 000713. ref SDS 75 4176
671782 - Does this imply that Perice was a "rebel"?
671784 - ..
671785 - Communication today, however, is the overwhelming focus of daily
671786 - work. A new management science of Communication Metrics was
671787 - formed 1995 after 10 years of using SDS, ref SDS 8 0001, because
671788 - in the modern era communication is a predicate to action, and
671789 - this makes....
671791 - communication the biggest risk in enterprise
671794 - ...as explained in POIMS. per POIMS. ref OF 1 IE6L
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