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DIARY: November 24, 1999 10:35 PM Wednesday; Rod Welch

Plato, Aristotle on philosophy.

1...Summary/Objective
...................Science and Human Values
2...Value - quality....
3...Aristotle Science and Human Values
4...Pre-Socratic Philosophers
5...History of Science, Gelileo
6...Evolution, Darwin
7...Mythology Arises from Curiosity, to Acquire Resources for Life


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SUBJECTS
Plato
Common Sense Misleads Truth Moving Target
Common Sense Managers Ignore Information Facts Data that Conflict
Commond Sense Inertia from Success Blinds Management to New Ideas
Plato, Biographer of Socrates

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1007 -    ..
1008 - Summary/Objective
1009 -
100901 - Follow up ref SDS 3 0000, ref SDS 1 0000.
100902 -
100903 - Introduction to Plato attributes Socretes explaining good and evil
100904 - differentiated from momentary feelings of physical pleasure and pain.
100905 - ref OF 4 0001
100907 -  ..
100908 - Correlating good and evil with pleasure and pain is tricky at best.
100909 - Preserving life is generally good, even without pleasure.  Some people
100910 - take pleasure seeing a sunset.  If there is no sunset today, there is
100911 - the potential of pleasure seeing sunset tomorrow or next week.
100913 -  ..
100914 - Plato is credited for writing down the works of Socretes, ref OF 4
100915 - 2L6M, who preferred dialog asking questions rather than writing things
100916 - down.
100917 -
100918 -            [On 991209 research Plato's Phadrus Dialogs writes down
100919 -            alleged Socretes analysis of writing considered the most
100920 -            powerful invention, ref SDS 5 3416, but not embraced by
100921 -            Socretes, who preferred reliance on human memory.
100922 -            ref SDS 5 5658
100924 -             ..
100925 -            [On 991129 added links to Roman history. ref SDS 4 0001]
100927 -  ..
100928 - Professor Fred Wilson at Rochester Institute of Technology provides an
100929 - overview of the work and key figures in a series on...
100931 -                    ..
100932 -                   Science and Human Values
100933 -
100934 -
100935 - ...original source for contents, ref OF 1 0001, of the series...
100936 -
100937 -              http://www.rit.edu/~flwstv/contents.html
100939 -  ..
100940 - Wilson provides an in depth explanation of Plato's life. ref OF 5 0001
100942 -  ..
100943 - Another source explains the power of writing shown by Plato's style to
100944 - carefully construct dialogs that comprehensively present ideas on
100945 - philosophy, human nature, character, and morality...
100946 -
100947 -              http://www.costumesupercenter.com/platosdialogues.html
100949 -  ..
100950 - This site references the classics library at MIT....
100951 -
100952 -              http://classics.mit.edu/
100954 -  ..
100955 - Analysis by a graduate student of Eric A. Havelock's book...
100956 -
100957 -                        Preface to Plato
100958 -
100959 - ...indicates that Plato argued in his day for greater reliance on
100960 - literacy to complement oral communication, where poetry was the
100961 - principal memory device, i.e., a pre-literate period could be improved
100962 - by literacy. ref OF 21 8991  This is also reviewed on 991108
100963 - concerning the alphabet. ref SDS 2 0788
100964 -
100965 -     [On 000721 Professor Ransdell explains Plato's concern that
100966 -     writing in his time was not applied correctly. ref SDS 6 3652
100968 -  ..
100969 - This point is supported by Virginia Tech's web site on literacy.
100970 - ref OF 22 4802
100972 -  ..
100973 - Site on philosophy and values...
100975 -  ..
100976 - Kelley L. Ross, Ph.D., Department of Philosophy, Los Angeles Valley
100977 - College, Van Nuys, California 91401-4096, (818) 947-2467
100978 -
100979 -                      Kelley L. Ross
100980 -                      Department of Philosophy
100981 -                      Los Angeles Valley College
100982 -                      Van Nuys, CA 91401-4096
100984 -                       ..
100985 -                      kross@friesian.com
100986 -
100988 -     ..
100989 -    The Proceedings of the Friesian School
100990 -
100991 -              http://www.friesian.com/#contents
100993 -     ..
100994 -    Has a quote from Thomas Jefferson...
100995 -
100996 -       The more a subject is understood, the more briefly it may be
100997 -       explained.
100999 -  ..
101000 - Value - quality....
101001 -
101002 -    Value Theory ...
101003 -
101004 -              http://www.friesian.com/value.htm
101005 -
101006 -    Foundations of Value, ref OF 7 0001 -- has three parts...
101007 -
101008 -       Part II. ref OF 7 0002
101010 -        ..
101011 -       Part III. ref OF 7 0003
101013 -        ..
101014 -       Has a link to Hegle, ref OF 7 3675....
101015 -
101016 -                 http://www.friesian.com/hegel.htm
101018 -  ..
101019 - Philosophy of history...
101020 -
101021 -              http://www.friesian.com/philhist.htm
101023 -  ..
101024 - Cognitive Science at Stanford University
101025 -
101026 -              http://cd1.library.usyd.edu.au/stanford/entries/cognitive-science/
101028 -  ..
101029 - Mind and Body
101030 -
101031 -              http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/Mind/Table.html
101032 -
101033 -    History of psychology.
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SUBJECTS
Aristotle, Student of Plato

1203 -
120401 -  ..
120402 - Aristotle Science and Human Values
120403 -
120404 - Fred Wilson at Rochester Institute of Technology provides an
120405 - explanation of Aristotle's life. ref OF 9 0001
120406 -
120407 - The original source has two pages...
120408 -
120409 -         http://www.rit.edu/~flwstv/aristotle1.html
120411 -  ..
120412 - Part two, ref OF 9 0002 is at...
120413 -
120414 -         http://www.rit.edu/~flwstv/aristotle2.html
120416 -  ..
120417 - Whole is greater than the sum of its parts. ref OF 9 0744
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SUBJECTS
Pythagoras

1303 -
130401 -  ..
130402 - Pre-Socratic Philosophers
130403 -
130404 - Fred Wilson at Rochester Institute of Technology provides an
130405 - explanation of Pre-Socratic philosophers, ref OF 13 0001, including
130406 - Pythagoras. ref OF 13 0899
130408 -  ..
130409 - The original source has one page...
130411 -        ..
130412 -       http://www.rit.edu/~flwstv/presocratic.html#presocratic
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SUBJECTS
Science and Math, Galileo

1403 -
140401 -  ..
140402 - History of Science, Gelileo
140403 -
140404 - Fred Wilson at Rochester Institute of Technology provides an
140405 - explanation of the history of Science and Galielo. ref OF 15 0001
140406 -
140407 - The original source has one page...
140408 -
140409 -        http://www.rit.edu/~flwstv/galileo.html
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SUBJECTS
Darwin, Charles

1503 -
150401 -  ..
150402 - Evolution, Darwin
150403 -
150404 - Fred Wilson at Rochester Institute of Technology provides an
150405 - explanation of Charles Darwin and evolution. ref OF 11 0001
150406 -
150407 -         http://www.rit.edu/~flwstv/darwin.html
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SUBJECTS
Mythology, Curiosity
Science Human Values
Religion
Causation Case Studies Chronology Intelligence
Causation Chronology History Experience
Creativity in Management
Curiosity
Creativity

2410 -
241101 -  ..
241102 - Mythology Arises from Curiosity, to Acquire Resources for Life
241103 -
241104 - Professor Fred Wilson at Rochester Institute of Technology provides an
241105 - explanation of mythology based on the human characteristic "curiosity"
241106 - founded in need for living organisms to seek out resources that
241107 - sustain life. ref OF 17 0001
241109 -  ..
241110 - This supplements research about Greek mythology on 991108. ref SDS 2
241111 - 4355
241113 -  ..
241114 - Myths are a form of poetry. ref OF 17 0744
241116 -  ..
241117 - Exagerated stories over hundreds of years become myths. ref OF 17 0688
241118 -
241119 -    Seems to support explanation on 991108 of oral communication.
241120 -    ref SDS 2 2000  Used this to develop a preface for the summary of
241121 -    Greek Gods. ref OF 20 0001, reported on 991108. ref SDS 2 2356
241123 -     ..
241124 -    Greek mythology is explained in the second section. ref OF 18 9599
241126 -     ..
241127 -    Interpreting myths as useful cultural technologies that build and
241128 -    maintain shared meaning essential for effective cooperation.
241129 -    ref OF 17 0573
241131 -     ..
241132 -    Myths do not begin as entertainment. ref OF 17 3089
241133 -
241134 -       However, it may be that re-telling the myth hundreds of years
241135 -       later takes on aspects of entertainment to maintain interest, as
241136 -       reported on 991108. ref SDS 2 4505
241138 -     ..
241139 -    Myths are not allegory, they cloak abstract thought that reflects
241140 -    perceived experience. ref OF 17 1440
241142 -  ..
241143 - Creation of myths is explained. ref OF 17 5041
241144 -
241146 -  ..
241147 - Subject - Object correlation is basis of scientific thinking.
241148 - ref OF 17 0788
241149 -
241150 -    Discussed again in connection with analysing myths. ref OF 17 0482
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241152 -    Causality is reviewed. ref OF 17 2024
241153 -
241154 -       This is a key aspect of both religion and law, both of which
241155 -       developed traditions of maintaining alignment, explained in the
241156 -       NWO...
241158 -     ..
241159 -    Space is reviewed. ref OF 17 5788
241161 -     ..
241162 -    Time is reviewed. ref OF 17 6943
241164 -  ..
241165 - Hebrew tradition is explained in a second web page. ref OF 18 0001
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