THE WELCH COMPANY
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S U M M A R Y


DIARY: January 9, 2009 08:40 AM Friday; Rod Welch

Meeting Dennis in Kaiser CT Department on quality control issues.

1...Summary/Objective


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0404 - Summary/Objective                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
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040501 - Follow up ref SDS 9 0000.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
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0408 - Progress                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
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040901 - The receptionist was not aware of Chris' work on 090106 setting up to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040902 - ask Doctor Mates for assistance correcting problems with CT test                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
040903 - reporting. ref SDS 7 OO4S  The receptionist advised that Chris did not                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
040904 - leave a report explaining about contacting Doctor Mates, which Chris                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
040905 - discussed yesterday on 090107. ref SDS 8 5Y92                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
040907 -  ..
040908 - The receptionist asked for Dennis, the supervisor.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
040910 -  ..
040911 - Dennis came out and we met in the lobby.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
040913 -  ..
040914 - Dennis said he received Millie's letter on 081231, ref SDS 6 LL5H,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
040915 - reporting successful CT test using Millie's Power Port. ref SDS 5 FF74                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
040917 -  ..
040918 - During our meeting in the lobby, Cassandra walked through to the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
040919 - adminiistration section.  She waved.  Commended her work on Millie's                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
040920 - CT test, and Cassandra laughed and said to tell that to Dennis, who of                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
040921 - course was observing and hearing this exchange.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
040923 -  ..
040924 - Also saw Pat briefly, and thanked her for excellent work on 081230 for                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
040925 - Millie's CT test. ref SDS 5 FF6X                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
040927 -  ..
040928 - Dennis was aware of Kaiser's records reported by Chris on 090106 that                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040929 - Millie's doctor ordered a consolidated report for the CT test on                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
040930 - 081230. ref SDS 7 OO82,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
040932 -  ..
040933 - Dennis explained that the CT Department started issuing multiple                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
040934 - reports for below the neck from above the collar bone because this                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
040935 - requires 2 passes of equipment, and so the hospital can bill Medicare                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040936 - and other insurance companies for 2 CT tests rather than just 1.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
040937 -                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
040938 -        [On 090407 1442 Katie indicated government regulations require                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
040939 -        multiple reports for each pass of CT equipment and for the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
040940 -        purpose of quality control to improve patient care. ref SDS 12                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
040941 -        L86F                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
040943 -         ..
040944 -        [On 090407 1442 Katie related that Al Hutchins explained                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
040945 -        multiple reports are required by government regulations                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
040946 -        concerning differences in tissue softness. ref SDS 12 YQ6F                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
040948 -         ..
040949 -        [On 090714 1504 HP tells customers they have to spend days                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040950 -        searching the Internet for drivers to upgrade the HDX 18t                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
040951 -        computer in order to run mission critical legacy software to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
040952 -        save lives, time, and money, because HP saves money by not                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
040953 -        disclosing that drivers for the Elitebook 8730w can be used to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040954 -        replace Vista 64-bit with Windows XP 32-bit on the HDX 18t.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
040955 -        ref SDS 14 F25W                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
040957 -  ..
040958 - Dennis initially commented that multiple reports should not cause                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
040959 - medical problems using CT Department reports to care for the patient,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040960 - because everything is in the reports.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040961 -                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
040962 -        [On 090409 2018 Doctor Davidson, Director fo Radiology of                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
040963 -        Kaiser Mt Diablo Service Area, advised that Kaiser CT                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
040964 -        Department Walnut Creek made a mistake issuing multiple reports                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
040965 -        for the CT test on 090413, ref SDS 13 WB6G, and advised that                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
040966 -        findings for future CT tests will consolidate findings into a                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
040967 -        single report for each test. ref SDS 13 XZ6U                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
040969 -  ..
040970 - Reviewed the basis for publishing consolidated reports to save lives,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040971 - time, and money discussed with Chris on 090106. ref SDS 7 OO85                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
040973 -  ..
040974 - Dennis asked how serious is the problem?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
040976 -  ..
040977 - We reviewed risks of misunderstanding and mistakes that occur from                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
040978 - issuing separate reports for a single radiology test.  Reports get                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
040979 - separated and issued on different days; nobody is aware there are                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
040980 - other reports, shown in the record on 081113. ref SDS 2 VL5L  On                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
040981 - 081218 Tara advised that Kaiser did not submit to UCSF the 2nd report                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040982 - on the neck for the CT test on 081107, and asked Millie to submit the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040983 - report to UCSF. ref SDS 3 LM4I                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
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040985 -        [On 090109 1547 later this afternoon, Millie received only 1 of                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
040986 -        2 reports for the CT test on 081230, ref SDS 11 U88M, despite                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
040987 -        the doctor's order on 081219 to consolidate reports for a well                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
040988 -        ordered record that reduces mistakes. ref SDS 4 587G                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
040990 -         ..
040991 -        [On 090409 2018 Doctor Davidson, Director fo Radiology of                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
040992 -        Kaiser Mt Diablo Service Area, advised that Kaiser CT                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
040993 -        Department Walnut Creek made a mistake issuing multiple reports                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
040994 -        for the CT test on 090413, ref SDS 13 WB6G, and advised that                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
040995 -        findings for future CT tests will consolidate findings into a                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
040996 -        single report for each test. ref SDS 13 XZ6U                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
040998 -  ..
040999 - Additionally, common findings that overlap scanned areas, e.g.,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
041000 - supraclavicular in the neck, and axillary regions in the chest, are                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041001 - described differently in each report.  The same nodes are reported in                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041002 - different sizes in different reports, shown in the record on 090108.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041003 - ref SDS 10 UE6X  Busy people are easily confused, and make mistakes                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
041004 - when the complexity of health care data is compounded by having to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
041005 - read multiple reports for the same test.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
041007 -  ..
041008 - Dennis feels this issue requires review.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
041010 -  ..
041011 - We discussed submitting feedback from the patient and doctors to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
041012 - explain ideas that will make CT Department reports more useful for                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
041013 - patient care when all findings for CT tests are consolidated into a                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041014 - single report, as specified by Millie's doctor in the e-consult                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
041015 - referral on 081219. ref SDS 4 587G                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
041017 -  ..
041018 - Wanted to make sure Kaiser is recenptive to feedback, rather than                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
041019 - object to intrusive criticism.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
041021 -  ..
041022 - Dennis called for Doctor Mates to discuss getting feedback on                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
041023 - requirements for consolidating findings in a single report for each                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
041024 - test.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041026 -  ..
041027 - After about 20 minutes, Doctor Mates had not called back.  Dennis                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
041028 - feels that feedback should be submitted to the Department that can be                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
041029 - constructive fostering better patient care.  He said that Doctor Mates                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041030 - is very conscientious about communication on matters that affect                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
041031 - patient care.  He feels Doctor Mates will call back to investigate                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
041032 - this issue and take corrective action.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041034 -         ..
041035 -        [On 090409 2018 Doctor Davidson, Director fo Radiology of                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041036 -        Kaiser Mt Diablo Service Area, advised that Kaiser CT                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
041037 -        Department Walnut Creek made a mistake issuing multiple reports                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
041038 -        for the CT test on 090413, ref SDS 13 WB6G, and advised that                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
041039 -        findings for future CT tests will consolidate findings into a                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
041040 -        single report for each test. ref SDS 13 XZ6U                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
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