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S U M M A R Y


DIARY: September 12, 2005 03:15 PM Monday; Rod Welch

Meeting Doctor Grissom in San Francisco 2nd opinion for Millie.

1...Summary/Objective
2...Patient History Meeting with Doctor Grissom 2nd Opinion Surgery IBC
3...Purpose and Objectives for Examination Today
4...Summary of Patient History Explained During the Meeting
5...Criteria Patient Ready for Mastectomy Surgery IBC Recovery
6...Patient Ready for Mastectomy Surgery Verify with Biopsies Testing
7...Biopsies Thin Skin Verify IBC Subsided Determine Perimeter Surgery


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CONTACTS 
0201 - Medical Offices Nima Grissom                                                                                                                                       O-00000849 0601
020101 - Ms. Mary NLN; Secretary                                                                                                                                          O-00000849 0601
020103 - Administration Department                                                                                                                                        O-00000849 0601
0202 - Medical Offices Nima Grissom                                                                                                                                       O-00000849 0101
020201 - Ms. Nima Grissom, MD                                                                                                                                             O-00000849 0101
020203 - Executive Office                                                                                                                                                 O-00000849 0101

SUBJECTS
2nd Opinion #2 Surgical Oncologist 2nd Referral by UCSF on Criteria
2nd Opinion #2 Meeting Surgeon Oncologist Referral #2 from UCSF Exam
Meeting Examination 2nd Opinion #2 Surgical Oncologist 2nd Referral

1005 -
1005 -    ..
1006 - Summary/Objective
1007 -
100701 - Follow up ref SDS 25 0000. ref SDS 24 0000.
100702 -
100703 - Excellent meeting today presenting ideas for continuing systemic
100704 - treatment, ref SDS 0 MW5M, and, also, proposing consideration of an
100705 - innovative surgical solution, which may present Millie's best chance
100706 - of disease-free survival at least for a while. ref SDS 0 V150  Second
100707 - opinion draft will be submitted for review and comment, toward
100708 - finalizing a presentation to Kaiser. ref SDS 0 YR8H
100710 -      ..
100711 -     [On 050913 Doctor Grissom's proposal for very wide mastectomy to
100712 -     reduce chance of relapse presented to primary care physician at
100713 -     Kaiser. ref SDS 32 X545
100715 -      ..
100716 -     [On 050914 received 1st draft of 2nd opinion, ref SDS 33 AI8N, and
100717 -     submitted feedback. ref SDS 33 XX4R
100719 -      ..
100720 -     [On 050920 received final draft of 2nd opinion. ref SDS 34 PQ5S
100722 -      ..
100723 -     [On 050923 surgeon at Kaiser in Walnut Creek office received
100724 -     Doctor Grissom's 2nd opinion; discussed during meeting with
100725 -     patient. ref SDS 35 7J67
100727 -      ..
100728 -     [On 051010 Doctor Grissom discusses window of opportunity for
100729 -     possible "cure" in Millie's case. ref SDS 36 GW4I
100731 -      ..
100732 -     [On 051109 letter reports results implementing Doctor Grissom's
100733 -     2nd opinion; Kaiser reports Millie is disease-free, indicating a
100734 -     complete response to treatment guided in part by Doctor Grissom's
100735 -     opinion. ref SDS 37 R29J
100736 -
100737 -
100738 -
100740 -  ..
1008 -
1009 -
1010 - Progress
1011 -
1012 -
101201 - Patient History Meeting with Doctor Grissom 2nd Opinion Surgery IBC
101202 -
101203 - Follow up ref SDS 25 P68V.
101204 -
101205 - On 050823 submitted ref DIP 7 0001 with patient history and requesting
101206 - 2nd opinion. ref SDS 25 P68V  Mary called back later that day, and
101207 - scheduled the meeting for today. ref SDS 25 P354  On 050825 notified
101208 - Mary about scope of medical records for submission to the doctor.
101209 - ref SDS 26 XK8N  On 050909 delivered medical records to Doctor
101210 - Grissom. ref SDS 31 0001
101212 -  ..
101213 - At the end of the meeting today, the doctor returned pathology slides
101214 - and the CD for use in the next meeting, and then return to Kaiser.
101216 -  ..
101217 - The letter to Doctor Grissom's office on 050823 provided a link to a
101218 - case study on patient history, ref SDS 25 Z24Q, listed in the record
101219 - on 050812. ref SDS 20 6L4M
101221 -  ..
101222 - On 050826 a doctor on internal referral at Kaiser had incorrect
101223 - understanding of patient profile because there wasn't enough time to
101224 - review patient history. ref SDS 27 V15F  The doctor's 2nd opinion
101225 - later reported on 050907 that due to limited time the case was too
101226 - complicated to review patient history, and this resulted in incorrect
101227 - representation, as the basis of recommendations. ref SDS 28 555G
101229 -  ..
101230 - During the meeting today, the doctor discussed patient history on
101231 - progression of disease, and relapse in relation to treatments.  Doctor
101232 - Grissom commented that Millie's four (4) year battle with cancer
101233 - presents a formidable, complex history that is hard to grasp in the
101234 - time available for review and analysis, cited earlier on 041209 during
101235 - work on a prior 2nd opinion. ref SDS 7 LO5L  She feels the case study
101236 - on 050812 is very helpful for converving time finding critical
101237 - details.
101239 -  ..
101240 - Doctor Grissom will follow the doctor/patient partnership model
101241 - working with Doctor Shim at Kaiser, and discussed with Doctor Bailey
101242 - on 050909.  She will submit a draft 2nd opinion through electonic mail
101243 - for timely reivew and feedback to refine accuracy and scope that aids
101244 - implemenation.
101245 -
101246 -     [On 050914 received 1st draft of 2nd opinion, ref SDS 33 AI8N, and
101247 -     submitted feedback. ref SDS 33 XX4R
101248 -
101249 -
101250 -
101251 -
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1703 -
170401 -  ..
170402 - Purpose and Objectives for Examination Today
170403 - Summary of Patient History Explained During the Meeting
170404 -
170405 - Follow up ref SDS 27 R448.
170406 -
170407 - Millie summarized case history to guide discussions.
170408 -
170409 - On 020208 the patient initially complained of lumps on the left breast
170410 - and under the left arm during an examination by the gynolcologist.  A
170411 - biopsy showed cancer, reported to the patient on 020306. ref SDS 20
170412 - UF4J
170414 -  ..
170415 - On 020312 a lumpectomy was performed on the left breast, and lymph
170416 - nodes were removed.  Neoadjuvant chemotherapy and radiation treatment
170417 - occurred during 2002.  The patient received no treatment during 2003;
170418 - red rash on the left breast, and discomfort under the left axilla were
170419 - reported episodically beginning in 2003. ref SDS 20 NJ5F  Relapse was
170420 - diagnosed in 040318; IBC was diagnosed on 040614. ref SDS 20 MD5J  The
170421 - patient responded well to treatment on the Avastin and Taxol trial
170422 - protocol.  On 041103 a CT scan reported pulmonary emboli.  On 041104
170423 - the patient was removed from treatment. ref SDS 20 VZ4I  On 050104
170424 - treatment resumed with AC. ref SDS 20 T35J  IBC worsened.  On 050329
170425 - treatment was changed to Taxotere and capecitabine (Xeloda).
170426 - ref SDS 20 SK7K  The patient recovered, and on 050727 the surgeon at
170427 - Kaiser in Walnut Creek said the patient is ready for surgery.  On
170428 - 050729 the primary care physician in Oncology asked for a date to
170429 - schedule surgery. ref SDS 20 RM6F  On August 19, 2005 the patient
170430 - received Taxotere chemotherapy to begin the 7th cycle of treatment,
170431 - and has one more week of supplemental treatment with capecitabine
170432 - (Xeloda) to complete the 7th cycle. ref SDS 23 0001  Chemotherapy has
170433 - now been paused pending decision and performance of surgery, as
170434 - planned by primary care physician on 050729. ref SDS 20 T35I
170436 -  ..
170437 - This meeting was scheduled on 050805, ref SDS 15 V15F, following up
170438 - discussion with the patient on 050729, ref SDS 15 V15F, and previously
170439 - planned on 050727 for referral by the surgeon in Kaiser's Walnut Creek
170440 - hospital to obtain a 2nd opinion. ref SDS 14 O85O
170442 -  ..
170443 - The purpose of the examination is to obtain a 2nd opinion on...
170444 -
170445 -    1.  Criteria for determining patient is ready for surgery,
170446 -        primarily related to establishing there has been sufficient
170447 -        recovery from IBC, presented at Kaiser in Walnut Creek on
170448 -        050727, ref SDS 14 OV5H, and discussed with referral surgeon at
170449 -        Kaiser in Oakland on 050826. ref SDS 27 G28J
170451 -         ..
170452 -    2.  Criteria for deciding to have mastectomy on both breasts to
170453 -        reduce chances of relapse and provide tissue for skin grafts,
170454 -        on the left breast, and for patient convenience to avoid
170455 -        prostheses presented to Kaiser in Walnut Creek on 050727,
170456 -        ref SDS 14 NT9G, and discussed with referral surgeon at Kaiser
170457 -        in Oakland on 050826. ref SDS 27 NT9G
170459 -         ..
170460 -    3.  Surgery tasks and issues that may arise performing a mastectomy
170461 -        on patients with IBC that are different from experience
170462 -        performing the procedure on patients without IBC. presented to
170463 -        Kaiser in Walnut Creek on 050727, ref SDS 14 QJ3Q, including
170464 -        determining the scope and boundaries of surgical removal,
170465 -        ref SDS 14 JV5F, and discussed with referral surgeon at Kaiser
170466 -        in Oakland on 050826. ref SDS 27 FM5J
170468 -         ..
170469 -    4.  Criteria for the patient to approve surgery for disease-free
170470 -        survival without chemotherapy treatments, also, presented to
170471 -        Kaiser in Walnut Creek on 050727, ref SDS 14 VL4O, and
170472 -        discussed with referral surgeon at Kaiser in Oakland on 050826.
170473 -        ref SDS 27 JS4H
170474 -
170475 -
170476 -
170477 -
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Examination 2nd Opinion #2 Referral #2 from UCSF Showed Patient Read

3004 -
300501 -  ..
300502 - Criteria Patient Ready for Mastectomy Surgery IBC Recovery
300503 - Patient Ready for Mastectomy Surgery Verify with Biopsies Testing
300504 - Biopsies Thin Skin Verify IBC Subsided Determine Perimeter Surgery
300505 -
300506 - The letter to Doctor Grissom on 050823 explained the purpose of the
300507 - 2nd opinion....
300509 -         ..
300510 -    1.  Patient ready for mastectomy surgery based on regression of
300511 -        inflammation of IBC, discussed with surgeon at Kaiser on
300512 -        050727. ref SDS 14 OV5H
300514 -  ..
300515 - Doctor Grissom made an examination, and commented that Millie seems
300516 - ready for surgery with respect to recovery from IBC.  The doctor
300517 - observed slight stiffness and coloration of the skin where radiation
300518 - treatments were administered in July and August of 2002.
300520 -  ..
300521 - The doctor indicated that further testing should be done to confirm
300522 - that these lingering symptoms are actually reaction to radiation, and
300523 - are not IBC.  She proposes several sliver skin biopsies and a PET scan
300524 - test to verify that IBC has fully subsided, and that there is no
300525 - distant metastasis.
300527 -  ..
300528 - The doctor indicated that if the sliver skin biopsies show that IBC is
300529 - still present in the breast, surgery would not be a good treatment;
300530 - and, also, noted that if distant metastasis is found by PET testing,
300531 - then in that case mastectomy surgery is not recommended, but rather
300532 - the patient should be treated with chemotherapy.
300533 -
300535 -         ..
300536 -    2.  Scope of surgery based on inflammation that extended beyond the
300537 -        breast toward the neck in March, though at this time seems to
300538 -        have fully regressed, following up discussions at Kaiser on
300539 -        050727. ref SDS 14 JV5F
300541 -         ..
300542 -        Both breasts for patient convenience and for skin grafts to
300543 -        close wound on left breast infected with IBC, also, discussed
300544 -        on 050727. ref SDS 14 NT9G
300546 -  ..
300547 - The doctor feels that removing both breasts is not a good treatment
300548 - procedure, because it compounds recovery and follow on treatment
300549 - issues.
300551 -  ..
300552 - Doctor Grissom proposes a "very wide" mastectomy surgery to remove
300553 - previously infected tissue, and the area that was previously radiated
300554 - in July and August 2002.  The doctor indicated this surgery is highly
300555 - complex, requiring contemporaneous reconstruction by a plastic surgeon
300556 - to close the wound in a 10 hour operation using a microvascular flap
300557 - such as a DIEP flap or possibly a TRAM.
300559 -         ..
300560 -        [On 050913 Doctor Grissom's proposal for very wide mastectomy
300561 -        to reduce chance of relapse presented to primary care physician
300562 -        at Kaiser. ref SDS 32 X545
300564 -         ..
300565 -        [On 050920 received Doctor Grissom's 2nd opinion confirming
300566 -        proposal on reducing risk of relapse that enables surgical
300567 -        wound to heal. ref SDS 34 XL8U
300569 -         ..
300570 -        [On 050923 Doctor Grissom's recommendations reviewed with
300571 -        surgeon at Kaiser planning for very wide mastectomy and closure
300572 -        by plastic surgery to reduce chance of relapse. ref SDS 35 NT9G
300574 -  ..
300575 - The doctor explained that removing previously infected skin helps
300576 - prevent relapse of cancer, which would otherwise prevent the surgical
300577 - wound from healing, as shown by Millie's experience with the punch
300578 - biopsy taken on 040419 which did not heal for over a year due to
300579 - ongoing IBC, reported on 050107. ref SDS 10 IS5N  Millie explained
300580 - today that in March of this year, IBC inflammation had spread above
300581 - the breast toward the neck, as reported by the surgeon in Kaiser's
300582 - Walnut Creek office during a meeting on 050324. ref SDS 11 YY7F  The
300583 - doctor noted that sliver skin biopsies will help define the area of
300584 - skin to remove, per above. ref SDS 0 FH6O  In addition, closure with
300585 - plastic surgery will provide skin that has not previously been
300586 - radiated, and so will provide a radiation treatment option following
300587 - surgery, which is standard for IBC treatment, reported on 040517.
300588 - ref SDS 2 JK94
300589 -
300591 -         ..
300592 -    3.  Experience of surgeon performing mastectomy surgery on IBC
300593 -        patient, previously discusssed at Kaiser on 050727. ref SDS 14
300594 -        QJ3Q
300595 -
300597 -  ..
300598 - Doctor Grissom indicated that IBC is a very rare form of cancer that
300599 - is normally diagnosed de novo.  The doctor further commented that
300600 - Millie's patient profile contracting IBC on relapse is a rare
300601 - condition of a rare disease.  As a result, there are no studies and
300602 - very little literature on criteria and guidance for assessing when a
300603 - patient is ready for surgery, and on the scope of the operation,
300604 - because there is not a lot of experience treating this particular
300605 - situation.
300607 -  ..
300608 - The doctor said that an oncologist is normally best positioned to
300609 - analyse expert advice in 2nd opinions, and coordinate medical team
300610 - planning for treatment options, including surgery, and further to help
300611 - the patient consider alternatives, risks, and benefits for a reasoned
300612 - decision based on patient history.  This was requested in a letter to
300613 - Doctor Benz at UCSF on 050819. ref SDS 22 AI8N  On 050823 UCSF made
300614 - referral to surgeons, and were again requested for guidance on
300615 - analysing Millie's treatment. ref SDS 25 QF7N
300616 -
300617 -        [On 050913 primary care physician in Oncology Department at
300618 -        Kaiser likened the role of Oncology to the leadership role of a
300619 -        General Contractor who manages and coordinates other experts.
300620 -        ref SDS 32 Q94H
300622 -  ..
300623 - Doctor Grissom indicated that planning and performing a very wide
300624 - mastectomy surgery on an IBC patient is complex and difficult,
300625 - including collaboration with the plastic surgeon, as explained above.
300626 - ref SDS 0 V150  Experience treating IBC patients with surgery is
300627 - critical for success.
300629 -  ..
300630 - There was discussion about how surgeons become experienced treating
300631 - IBC patients.  If experience is critical, do doctors initially assist
300632 - to observe the work, and learn about unique issues and practices for
300633 - operating on IBC patients?
300635 -  ..
300636 - Doctor Grissom said that doctors typically do not have time for
300637 - training by assisting other surgeons in order learn and gain
300638 - experience on highly complex, difficult, and unusual surgeries.  She
300639 - explained having started doing surgeries beginning in 1985.  Her
300640 - twenty (20) year career includes performing a number of very wide
300641 - mastectomy surgeries, and some of these, though evidently not many,
300642 - have involved IBC patients.  Doctor Grissom then indicated that any
300643 - doctor, who has experience performing mastectomy surgery can likely be
300644 - successful performing a very wide mastectomy on an IBC patient, if the
300645 - doctor consults in advance with a surgeon who has experience doing
300646 - this type of work.
300648 -  ..
300649 - There was no discussion on the scope of consultation.  Does this mean
300650 - a telephone call.  Does this entail joint examination of the patient,
300651 - and planning the layout of surgery, submitting a due diligence
300652 - checklist of steps for IBC surgery that are not common to normal
300653 - mastectomy surgeries?  How about debriefing for post-op follow up,
300654 - possibly a joint examination, does this require further consultation?
300655 - What would this cost?
300657 -  ..
300658 - The doctor indicated that her price to perform this surgery for Millie
300659 - would be $2,400.  There would be additional costs for the plastic
300660 - surgeon and for the hospital.  The doctor seemed open to performing
300661 - the work at Kaiser, but seemed more comfortable with the prospect of
300662 - doing the work at a familiar hospital and staff.  Not sure if $2,400
300663 - includes post-op follow up.
300664 -
300666 -         ..
300667 -    4.  Approval of surgery for extending longevity and quality of
300668 -        life, per background...
300669 -
300670 -            a.  Primary care physician at Kaiser recommending surgery
300671 -                at this time, reported on 050729. ref SDS 16 BZ56
300672 -
300673 -                Previously, on 041117...
300675 -                 ..
300676 -            b.  Doctor Benz at UCSF stated in a 2nd opinion there is no
300677 -                role for surgery in Millie's case at that time.
300678 -                ref SDS 6 OU5P
300680 -                 ..
300681 -            c.  Doctor Guardino at Stanford stated in a 2nd opinion
300682 -                received on 041209 there might be a role for surgery
300683 -                after regression of inflammation. ref SDS 7 SN97
300685 -                 ..
300686 -            d.  Doctor Shim on internal referral at Kaiser supports
300687 -                surgery in a 2nd opinion received on 050907,
300688 -                ref SDS 28 JS4H, as a component of a curative treatment
300689 -                model. ref SDS 28 F49H
300691 -                 ..
300692 -            e.  Doctor Bailey recommends continuing cheotherapy
300693 -                treatments and further testing at this time to assess
300694 -                recovery from IBC, reported on 050909. ref SDS 30 1G4Q
300696 -         ..
300697 -        This background presents following issues...
300699 -         ..
300700 -        Continue treatments and evalute recovery from IBC with breast
300701 -        MRI and PET scan tests?
300703 -         ..
300704 -        Criteria for determining remission to end current treatments
300705 -        with disease-free survival?
300707 -         ..
300708 -        Millie explained her goal to maintain current control of local
300709 -        and distant disease, and to reduce debilitating. side effects
300710 -        of chemotherapy.
300712 -  ..
300713 - Doctor Grissom commented that mastectomy surgery in this case is a
300714 - close call due to high risks, and therefore, Millie could control her
300715 - disease by avoiding surgery, and continuing with chemotherapy.
300717 -  ..
300718 - The doctor cited another patient who contracted IBC on relapse,
300719 - similar to Millie.  This patient decided not to have surgery, and
300720 - seems to be doing well so far on Taxotere chemotherapy.  The doctor
300721 - did not say how long this patient has had IBC, and how long she has
300722 - been treated with Taxotere and other chemotherapy.  There was no
300723 - discussion of side effects, and no discussion of the patient's age and
300724 - other factors that relate to tolerance for side effects.
300726 -  ..
300727 - Doctor Grissom said that if proposed PET scan and sliver skin biopsy
300728 - tests, called out earlier, per above, ref SDS 0 FH6O, show no
300729 - detectable cancer activity, then Millie's best chance of accomplishing
300730 - remission, so there is a period of time, near-or-long term, without
300731 - side effects from treatment with chemotherapy, is to have a successful
300732 - very wide mastectomy surgery, as outlined above. ref SDS 0 L27V  The
300733 - doctor noted that Millie's history of relapse, when off treatment,
300734 - suggests that systemic treatment may be the best course, and noted
300735 - that even if the surgery is successful, where there are no mistakes,
300736 - there could be a problem with healing, and in any case Millie's cancer
300737 - may come back.
300738 -
300740 -         ..
300741 -    5.  Retesting biopsy to evaluate change in status from ER PR and
300742 -        HER2/neu negative for expanding treatment options, proposed by
300743 -        Doctor Shim at Kaiser on 050907, ref SDS 28 AE6P, and also
300744 -        discussed by Doctor Bailey on 050909. ref SDS 30 1G8R
300746 -         ..
300747 -        Retest existing biopsy that found IBC on 040419, or take a new
300748 -        sample at present time after patient has substantially
300749 -        recovered from IBC?
300751 -  ..
300752 - Doctor Grissom concurred with Doctor Shim's recommendation on 050909
300753 - to retest the biopsy on 040419, when IBC was discovered, from among
300754 - many biopsies Millie has had, ref SDS 29 P58N, because this was near
300755 - the height of Millie's relapse, and so will provide tissue that can be
300756 - tested for status change.  This aligns with understandings from
300757 - meeting with Doctor Bailey last Friday on 050909.
300759 -            ..
300760 -           [On 050913 presented status retest proposal to primary care
300761 -           physician. ref SDS 32 JP5H
300763 -            ..
300764 -           [On 050923 surgeon at Kaiser concurs retest for status, and
300765 -           notes that biopsy on 040419 may not have enough tissue;
300766 -           discusses using tissue from new biopsies planned for
300767 -           following week to test for IBC recovery. ref SDS 35 U94M
300769 -         ..
300770 -    6.  Taxotere and capecitabine (Xeloda) current regimine causing
300771 -        significant side effects.  On 050520 strength of capecitabine
300772 -        was redueced by 25%. ref SDS 13 V43H  This was effective for
300773 -        awhile.  Side effects has subsequently accumulated.
300775 -         ..
300776 -        What authority guides calculation of dosage strength for
300777 -        Taxotere and capecitabine.  Is there published guidance on
300778 -        levels of effectiveness?
300780 -  ..
300781 - There was no discussion today of adjusting treatment dosage to reduce
300782 - side effects.
300783 -
300784 -     [On 050914 received 1st draft of 2nd opinion, ref SDS 33 AI8N, and
300785 -     submitted feedback. ref SDS 33 XX4R
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