THE WELCH COMPANY
440 Davis Court #1602
San Francisco, CA 94111-2496
415 781 5700
S U M M A R Y
DIARY: June 1, 2003 08:12 AM Sunday;
Garbage disposal repairs at 1158 St Mathew Place in Concord.
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Garbage Disposal Kitchen Sink Replace Rental Unit Townhouse 1158 St
1303 - ..
1304 - Summary/Objective
130501 - Follow up
130503 - Millie reported the garbage disposal failed a week or so ago.
130504 - Recently she contacted the landlord about the problem, and they agreed
130505 - that Millie would do the procurement, and the landlord expected he
130506 - could do the installation, and reimburse for the cost of the
130507 - equipment.
130509 - [On 170214 0931 received letter from MondySavingPro.com
130510 - explaining Home Warranty Insurance might be available to
130511 - cover routine home and appliance repairs for cost of $300
130512 - to $500 annually. ref SDS 2 EM73
130514 - ..
130515 - [On 170214 0931 received letter from MondySavingPro.com
130516 - explaining Home Warranty Insurance to cover all routine
130517 - home and appliance repairs for cost of $300 to $500
130518 - annually. ref SDS 2 EM73
130520 - https://www.moneysavingpro.com/home-warranty/
130522 - ..
130523 - Today, we went to Home Depot and investigated purchasing a new unit.
130525 - ..
130526 - Got advice from Ray about installation and also looked at the design
130527 - of the garbage disposals on display. Ray explained configuration
130528 - issues that need to be investigated in order to purchase a unit that
130529 - is compatible with the plumbing so that piping changes are not needed.
130530 - Key issue is whether the sink drain supports a twist system for
130531 - installation, what is the dimension from the bottom of the drain from
130532 - the sink to the center line of the drain pipe that leaves the
130533 - disposal. Another factor is whether the connection for the drain pipe
130534 - is treaded or uses a presure seal system. The only disposals that
130535 - support a pressure seal design are the two larger and more expensive
130536 - units.
130538 - ..
130539 - Drove back to the house and got the details on the existing
130540 - installation. This unit supports the twist design for installation,
130541 - the centerline from the from the drain pipe to the top of the unit is
130542 - 5" and the piping is rigged for a pressure seal installation rather
130543 - than a threadded connection.
130545 - ..
130546 - We also tried to remove the exising unit.
130548 - ..
130549 - Visual inspection in combination with the demonstration by the store
130550 - representative showed that the unit should come loose by twisting.
130551 - Tried for about 45 minutes various ways to accomplish the twist but
130552 - was not successful. Appears that corrosion may have created a
130553 - condition where the connection is frozen. We likely may need a
130554 - lubricant to loosen this connection.
130556 - ..
130557 - Drove back to Home Depot and discussed the problem with the support
130558 - staff Ray. Asked Ray if Home Depot recommends using a penetrating
130559 - lubricant to loosen the connection for removig the existing unit?
130561 - [On 030605 Installation Manual recommends using a penetrating
130562 - lubricant for removing an existing unit that cannot be twisted
130563 - from the drain assembly. ref SDS 1 MP62
130565 - ..
130566 - Ray explained that often removing the exising unit is a major task
130567 - that requires special tools to twist a "frozen" connection. He said
130568 - that Home Depot does not recommend a penetrating lubricant, because
130569 - each situation is different, and that is why they recommend purchasing
130570 - installation service for $80, since the mechanic does this work
130571 - regularly and is familiar with a range of steps for solving each kind
130572 - of problem.
130574 - ..
130575 - We decided to purchase a new garbage disposal. Got the 3/4 HP unit
130576 - which is more expensive, but it has the fitting for the piping that is
130577 - already installed. Cost of InSinkErator disposal $243, with tax.
130578 - Purchased installation for another $80 with the understanding that we
130579 - will give this another try, and if successful will call and cancel
130580 - installation.
130582 - [On 170214 0931 received letter from MondySavingPro.com
130583 - explaining Home Warranty Insurance to cover all routine
130584 - home and appliance repairs for cost of $300 to $500
130585 - annually. ref SDS 2 EM73
130587 - https://www.moneysavingpro.com/home-warranty/
130589 - ..
130590 - Ray said we also need an electrical cable for power in case the cable
130591 - on the existing unit cannot be removed. (see below. ref SDS 0 6D3L)
130593 - ..
130594 - Ray explained that we need sealant for installing the new drain in the
130595 - sink. Ray demonstrated with his hands a procedure to roll the sealant
130596 - into a heavy bead to wrap around the drain where it rests on the sink
130597 - surface. He went around the corner and selected a small plastic
130598 - container of the sealant.
130600 - [On 030605 the plumber used a very generous bead to accomplish
130601 - this step. ref SDS 1 MP90
130603 - ..
130604 - Customer rep said we should get a call within 3 days to schedule
130605 - installation. If we have already installed the unit, simply cancle
130606 - the installation work.
130608 - ..
130609 - Back at the apartment, tried again to remove the existing garbage
130610 - disposal and was not successful. During this work, noticed a reset
130611 - button on the bottom. Tried pressing this and noticed that it receded
130612 - some when pressed and did not retore itself, indicating it was in a
130613 - different position.
130615 - ..
130616 - Tried the power and turns out the garbage disposal ran.
130618 - ..
130619 - The unit sounded pretty noisy. Decided to continue with installation
130620 - of the new unit, rather than return it, because the increased noise
130621 - indicates impending failure.
130623 - [On 170214 0931 received letter from MondySavingPro.com
130624 - explaining Home Warranty Insurance to cover all routine
130625 - home and appliance repairs for cost of $300 to $500
130626 - annually. ref SDS 2 EM73
130628 - https://www.moneysavingpro.com/home-warranty/
130630 - ..
130631 - We also noticed that the electrical cable does not unplug from the
130632 - unit, indicating that we need to purchase a new one in order to
130633 - install the new garbage disposal, per Ray's explanation above.
130634 - ref SDS 0 4G4J
130636 - [On 030605 installation showed that connecting the cable entails
130637 - more than mere than connecting a plug; wiring is also required.
130638 - ref SDS 1 NX69
130640 - ..
130641 - We need the wrenchette. It is not beneath the sink, and it is not in
130642 - the box, so Syad must have thrown it into his tool bag along with his
130643 - other tools when he cleaned up.