THE WELCH COMPANY
440 Davis Court #1602
San Francisco, CA 94111-2496
415 781 5700


S U M M A R Y


DIARY: October 21, 1998 08:30 AM Wednesday; Rod Welch

Meeting with Telecomunication consultant, Teecom, on Moscone.

1...Summary/Objective
2...Background on Teecom
3...Telecomunications Design/Build Bid Package
4...Room Finish for Telecom
5...Plywood Backing for Conduit, with Internescent Paint
.....Prime Contract Bid Package Shall Specify
6...KH will Coordinate Door Hardware with Teecom Telecom Scope
7...Structural Support Telecommunication Cable Trays
8...KH and Teecom Review Conduit Runs for Telecom System
9...Quadrant 2 Telecom Rooms Conduit Routing
10...Quadrant 4 Telecom Rooms Conduit Routing
11...Quadrant 1 Telecom Rooms Conduit Routing
12...Quadrant 3 Telecom Rooms Conduit Routing
13...Robert clarified that the Teecom Telecom rooms on 2nd and 3rd floors

ACTION ITEMS.................. Click here to comment!

1...Mark says Teecom will submit cable tray layout and loading
2...Robert asked if any vertical conduit runs require bollard protection?
3...Robert identifies potential conflict that requires coordination

CONTACTS 
0201 - Gensler/Michael Willis/Kwan Henmi    415 433 3700 fax 415 627 3700
020101 - Mr. Robert Rudeen; Architect
020102 - Kwan Henmi Architects
020103 - Interior Design/Documentation
0202 - TEECOM                               510 337 2800 fax 2804
020201 - Mr. Mark D. Latz, RCDD; Associate

SUBJECTS
Telecom Meeting, 981021
Coordinate Door Hardware
Conduit Route Telecomm.

1005 -    ..
1006 - Summary/Objective
1007 -
100701 - Follow up ref SDS 1 0000.
100702 -
100703 - Teecom showed drawings of layout for Telecom rooms. Robert, Mark and
100704 - Clonia developed initial solutions to problems in conduit routing.
100705 - Clonia clarified scope between Teecom bid package and KH design for
100706 - prime contract on plywood backing for attaching conduits to walls, and
100707 - structural support for conduit cable trays.
100708 -
100709 -     [On 981023 received edits from Robert Rudeen. ref SDS 3 4875]
100710 -
100711 -     [On 981026 entered Robert's edits. ref SDS 4 3850]
100712 -
100713 -     [On 981028 delivered final edits. ref SDS 5 7080]
100714 -
100715 -     [On 981113 Robert requests more edits. ref SDS 6 4042]
100716 -
100717 -     [On 981113 reports that on 981111 Gensler refused to review notes
100718 -     on alleged grounds of being too wordy. ref SDS 7 9360]
100719 -
100720 -
100721 -
100722 -
1008 -
1009 -
1010 - Discussion
1011 -
101101 - Background on Teecom
101102 -
101103 - Mark initially explained that Teecom was started by people formerly
101104 - with TEE, the electrical consultant.
101105 -
101106 - Teecom's principals have worked on prior Moscone projects with
101107 - Clonia.
101108 -
101109 -
101110 -
101111 - Telecomunications Design/Build Bid Package
101112 -
101113 - Mark advised of a recent meeting between Clonia, TEE and Teecom, and
101114 - City of San Francisco officials.
101115 -
101116 - Mark said that Teecom is preparing a scope for a design/build bid
101117 - package to be let separately from the prime building contract.
101118 -
101119 - He advised it will include...
101120 -
101121 -     Life Safety Systems
101122 -     Building Automation
101123 -     Door hardware
101124 -     Elevator Systems
101125 -     Temperature Controls
101126 -     Lighting Controls
101127 -     Security Systems
101128 -
101129 - Robert noted that Teecom will need backgrounds.
101130 -
101131 - Mark advised that the prime building contract will include
101132 - construction of conduit.  The Telecom bid package will include pulling
101133 - the wire in the conduit.
101134 -
101135 - Mark advised that the cabeling is fiber optic.
101136 -
101137 - The sweeps require 4' so a double sweep requires 8' for the curvature
101138 - of the conduit.
101139 -
101140 -
101141 -
1012 -

SUBJECTS
Telecom Rooms
Coordinate Door Hardware, Room Finish
3/4 Ply with paint for Telecom Conduit Runs,
Finish Telecom Rooms 3/4 Ply, Paint

1907 -
190701 -  ..
190702 - Room Finish for Telecom
190703 - Plywood Backing for Conduit, with Internescent Paint
190704 -
190705 - Mark says Teecom's spec calls for connecting conduit to 3/4" plywood.
190706 -
190707 - Robert says KH can design a wall for attaching the plywood.
190708 -
190709 - Teecom will specify that utility and fixture "boxes" must be flush
190710 - with the surface of the plywood.
190711 -
190712 - Clonia said the plywood for conduit runs will be part of the prime
190713 - building contract, designed by KH.
190714 -
190715 -     KH to design the plywood and a special paint.
190716 -
190717 -     Prime Contract Bid Package Shall Specify
190718 -
190719 -     3/4" plywood is to be provided on all the walls for the
190720 -     telecommunication rooms.  By General Contractor
190721 -
190722 - Teecom's bid package should include a note on the plans for outlet
190723 - boxes to be flush with face of the plywood, as well as called out in
190724 - the specifications.
190725 -
190726 -
190727 -
190728 - KH will Coordinate Door Hardware with Teecom Telecom Scope
190729 -
190730 - Mark will contact KH to meet on door hardware in about 4 weeks.
190731 -
190732 -
190733 -
190734 -
1908 -

SUBJECTS
Telecom Cable Trays Structural Support
Bollards to Protect Conduits

2405 -
240501 -  ..
240502 - Structural Support Telecommunication Cable Trays
240503 -
240504 - Robert says that because the ceilings are high, Teecom should include
240505 - in its bid package for the Telecom system, miscellaneous metal
240506 - structural support for conduit cable trays.
240507 -
240508 - Mark says the Teecom Telecommunications conduit requires cable trays
240509 - on all floors.
240510 -
240511 - Mark says structural support needed for 14' ceilings.
240512 -
240513 - Clonia says KH will provide structural support for conduit cable
240514 - trays. KH should provide structural support for Telecom conduit cable
240515 - trays only for high ceilings.
240516 -
240517 - Clonia instructed that an express note be provided on the plans for
240518 - the contractor to provide structural support for telecommunications
240519 - conduits.
240520 -
240521 - Robert asked for loading requirements of conduit cable trays?
240522 -
240523 -    Mark says Teecom will submit cable tray layout and loading
240524 -    requirements to KH.
240525 -
240526 -    Teecom specifications are to call out structural support for
240527 -    Telecommunications conduit.
240528 -
240529 - Mark indicates that KH should provide structural support for all
240530 - ceiling areas in Telecom rooms in basement, 2nd and 3rd floors, East
240531 - (????) rooms.
240532 -
240533 - Robert suggested support requirements for cable trays to be a pair of
240534 - angles at 48" OC (to be confirmed.)
240535 -
240536 - Mark noted that Pacific Bell's floor loading requirement for the main
240537 - telephone room in the basement for this application is 150#/SF.
240538 -
240539 - Clonia said that the floor is designed to support 250#/SF.
240540 -
240541 - Robert asked if any vertical conduit runs require bollard protection?
240542 -
240543 -
240544 -
240545 -
2406 -

SUBJECTS
Telecom Rooms
Ceilings, Floor 2, 3

3105 -
310501 - KH and Teecom Review Conduit Runs for Telecom System
310502 -
310503 - Robert asked about the status of Teecom's drawings?
310504 -
310505 - Mark showed a drawings with Telecom rooms located roughly in the four
310506 - corners of the building on the following floors...
310507 -
310508 -       Basement
310509 -       1st Floor  (??)
310510 -       2nd Floor
310511 -       3rd Floor
310512 -
310513 - There are 4 - 4" conduits needed from Telecom rooms in the basement to
310514 - telecom rooms on the 2nd and 3rd floor in all four building quadrants.
310515 -
310516 - Mark said that some conduit runs conflict with exit door locations.
310517 -
310518 - Teecom needs solution for conduit runs from the basement rooms to the
310519 - 2nd floor control rooms.
310520 -
310521 - Mark suggests a jog in the conduit to column 5.
310522 -
310523 - Robert says the height is 30' floor to floor.
310524 -
310525 - Robert suggested conduits can be exposed.
310526 -
310527 - Robert suggests routing conduit through the ceiling space.
310528 -
310529 - Area 2 near grid E.5 and 1.5.
310530 -
310531 - Mark proposes a route that passes through the wall to the mezzanine,
310532 - cross the ceiling, and penetrate the wall into the Telecom room.
310533 -
310534 - Robert says it is a fire rated wall.
310535 -
310536 - They decided to analyse the problem for each quadrant location.
310537 -
310538 - Mark asks if the 2nd and 3rd floor ceilings are open?
310539 -
310540 - Clonia says yes.
310541 -
310542 -
310543 -
310544 -
3106 -

SUBJECTS
Telecom Rm, Quadrant 2

3404 -
340401 - Quadrant 2 Telecom Rooms Conduit Routing
340402 -
340403 - Robert marked the drawings to identify the 4 - 4" conduit runs for the
340404 - Telecom room from the basement.
340405 -
340406 - One wall has plumbing which preclude using it for the conduit.
340407 -
340408 - Mark asks if the conduit could be run on the other side of the wall
340409 - on line 5?
340410 -
340411 - Mark suggests moving the room to grid line 1.5.
340412 -
340413 - Robert indicated the conduit would hit the stair.
340414 -
340415 - Mark suggests routing under the stair landing.
340416 -
340417 - Robert notes that route would impair headroom.
340418 -
340419 - The decision was to run the conduit exposed on the wall at line E.5
340420 - near line 1.
340421 -
340422 -     The conduit can go through the mezzanine, swing to the exterior
340423 -     wall at grid 1 near E.5, into the electrical room.
340424 -
340425 -     It will be routed into the telecom room next to the electrical
340426 -     room.
340427 -
340428 -     Conduit to continue up the exterior wall at grid 1, penetrate the
340429 -     ceiling at floor 1 and swing the conduit onto grid line 1.
340430 -
340431 - Mark says this route will work.
340432 -
340433 -
340434 -
340435 -
340436 -
3405 -

SUBJECTS
Telecom Rm, Quadrant 4
Elevator 7, 8

3905 -
390501 - Quadrant 4 Telecom Rooms Conduit Routing
390502 -
390503 - Teecoms plans show the control room in the basement near grids 4.6 and
390504 - B7.
390505 -
390506 - Robert suggests moving the room closer to line 4.5.
390507 -
390508 - There is a possible conflict with elevator 7 and 8.
390509 -
390510 - Mark suggests that rather than move the control room, swing the
390511 - conduit to the south wall of elevator 7.
390512 -
390513 - Robert says the exterior south wall of elevator 7 can be used.
390514 -
390515 - Mark asks about the height of the ceiling.
390516 -
390517 - Robert calculates roughly 19' less 2' for framing.
390518 -
390519 - Conduit sweeps require 4', so a double sweep requires 8' for the
390520 - curvature of the conduit.
390521 -
390522 - The proposed route runs over the North wall of the Telecom room at
390523 - grid 4.6 near E.6, under structure to the South wall of Elevator 7.
390524 -
390525 - Conduit continues up the S. wall of Elevator 7 wall to Telecom rooms
390526 - above.
390527 -
390528 - Mark asks if proposed conduit route conflicts with mechanical ducts
390529 - or piping?
390530 -
390531 - Robert investigates mechanical and architectural drawings and does
390532 - not notice any conflicts.
390533 -
390534 - Mark asks if there is a mechanical duct at line E5?
390535 -
390536 - Robert identifies potential conflict that requires coordination
390537 - between conduit route and plumbing piping at line 1.5 and E5.
390538 -
390539 - Mark proposes...
390540 -
390541 -    Adjusting conduit to run up the wall east of E5, then past the 1st
390542 -    floor, swing over and curve the conduit to miss E5 steel.
390543 -
390544 - Robert sees no ductwork that impacts the route Mark proposes.
390545 -
390546 -
390547 -
3906 -

SUBJECTS
Telecom Rm. Quadrant 1

4204 -
420401 - Quadrant 1 Telecom Rooms Conduit Routing
420402 -
420403 - Mark says the conduit will run from the South wall of the Telecom room
420404 - in the basement near B 1 over to the wall on A6 between grids 1.5 and
420405 - 2, through the security office and into the telecom rooms above.
420406 -
420407 - Robert notes the conduit will sweep over the ceiling of the
420408 - electrical room.
420409 -
420410 - Mark said there are no problems with Elec.
420411 -
420412 - Robert checks mechanical drawings for conflicts.
420413 -
420414 - None are identified.
420415 -
420416 -
420417 -
4205 -

SUBJECTS
Telecom Rm, Quadrant 3
Elevator 4
Basement Backgrounds

4806 -
480601 - Quadrant 3 Telecom Rooms Conduit Routing
480602 -
480603 - There was discussion that routing conduit in this quadrant is the most
480604 - difficult.  Framing, mechanical and other elements obstruct direct
480605 - conduit routes from the basement to the third floor Telecom room.
480606 -
480607 - Robert thinks there is a steel framing conflict on grid 5.
480608 -
480609 - He suggests...
480610 -
480611 -     From basement conduit runs on line E5 near 1.
480612 -
480613 -     Pass through floor 1 and swing over to the east side of E.5
480614 -
480615 -     Conduit rises vertically to Floor 2 and 3 into the Security
480616 -     Control Room.
480617 -
480618 - Robert comments that the exterior wall "may go away," and that the
480619 - exterior skin will be exposed.
480620 -
480621 - There will only be steel for connecting the conduit.
480622 -
480623 - Mark explains Teecom requires plywood backing for securing conduit to
480624 - un-finished walls, discussed under scope above. ref SDS 0 4180
480625 -
480626 - Robert proposes routing conduit up the south wall of elevator 4.
480627 -
480628 - Robert explains need for routing to the west wall of elevator 4 at A5
480629 - and past the plumbing piping.
480630 -
480631 - Can come up the west wall of the telecom room at A5.  There are no
480632 - ceiling obstructions - curve conduit and rise at 4.3.
480633 -
480634 - Mark asks if the restroom can be squared off, to provide a route for
480635 - the conduit?
480636 -
480637 - Robert says maybe, but will it solve the problem?
480638 -
480639 - Ivan Romero shows mechanical air handling equipment that obstructs
480640 - proposed path for conduit.
480641 -
480642 - Robert suggests penetrating through the floor.
480643 -
480644 - Mark argues against penetrating the floor in the middle of a room.
480645 - ..
480646 - Robert says there is not enough room for conduit sweeps because
480647 - the height from the floor to the mezzanine is only 14'.
480648 - ..
480649 - Robert to coordinate mechanical at level 1 mezzanine on line A.5
480650 - between 4.2 and 4.3, per below. ref SDS 0 6300
480651 -
480652 - Robert checks drawings and finds steel framing that obstructs proposed
480653 - conduit route from A5 to near A6, and from A4 to A5.
480654 -
480655 -      [At 1000 Robert coordinates with A&P. ref SDS 2 6210]
480656 -
480657 - Need to move conduit off line to miss the steel framing.
480658 -
480659 - Robert suggests changing route to grid line 4.3.
480660 -
480661 - Mark examined basement plans for background drawings dated 981015.
480662 -
480663 - Robert suggests routing conduits at A4 near 4.3, come up the wall next
480664 - to the truck ramp, north of 4.3 at A5.
480665 -
480666 - Robert to coordinate electrical conduits will be routed in HVAC space.
480667 -
480668 - Mark suggests moving the Teecom telecom room in the basement, and all
480669 - the way up.
480670 -
480671 - Robert sees conflict with storage room.
480672 -
480673 - Robert asks how to get power to the Telecom room?
480674 -
480675 - Mark says power can be routed through the floor.
480676 -
480677 - Robert sees a conflict.
480678 -
480679 - Robert suggests moving the Control room to A5 and 3.6 and moving the
480680 - storage room that currently is shown in that space.
480681 -
480682 - Robert asks if the Electrical room needs to move along with moving the
480683 - Telecom room?
480684 -
480685 - Mark says no.
480686 -
480687 - Robert suggests secuity conduits pass through storage room at 1st
480688 - floor and mezzinine.
480689 -
480690 - Mark proposes to slip conduits for floor boxes to make room for
480691 - Teecom's secuity conduits.
480692 -
480693 - Robert proposes building another chase at 4.3.
480694 -
480695 - Mark says at the mezzinine the conduit can exit the chase and go up to
480696 - floors 2 and 3.
480697 -
480698 - Clonia indicates this route will work.
480699 -
480700 - Robert summarizes plan...
480701 -
480702 -    Route conduit straight up at 4.3 near A5.
480703 -
480704 -    Conduit is inside the wall.
480705 -
480706 -    Use a chase at 4.3.
480707 -
480708 -    Notify mechanical engineer that Teecom has conduit on 4.3 at A5.
480709 -
480710 -       Clonia did a cursory review of mechanical drawings and did not
480711 -       see any conflicts.
480712 -
480713 -    Sweep into mechanical mezzanine onto south side of 4.3.
480714 -
480715 - Mark asks where will door way be?
480716 -
480717 - Clonia says to use the corridore.
480718 -
480719 - Robert discusses the Teecomm Telecom Room on 3rd Floor
480720 -
480721 - Clonia suggests putting the door on the opposite wall from where the
480722 - conduit is attached.
480723 -
480724 - Mark feels this solves the problem.
480725 -
480726 - Robert clarified that the Teecom Telecom rooms on 2nd and 3rd floors
480727 - are moving from 4.3 to 4.6.
480728 -
480729 -    •  Conduit to route up the South wall of the basement Telecom room
480730 -       at grid 4.3 near A.5
480731 -
480732 -    •  Through the wall chase behind the urinal at 1st floor through
480733 -       the mechanical room at mezzannine
480734 -       ..
480735 -       Robert to coordinate with mechanical, per ref SDS 0 1024.
480736 -
480737 -    •  Swing over South of grid 4.3.
480738 -
480739 -    •  Telecom room moved Sough of grid 4.3 with new door location at
480740 -       South West corner.
480741 -
480742 -    •  Conduit routes to the South wall of the new location, and up to
480743 -       level 3.
480744 -
480745 -
480746 -
4808 -
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