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SUBJECTS
Armoire Conversion Modify Cabinetry HD Television 42" x 27" Procurem
1203 -
1203 - ..
1204 - Summary/Objective
1205 -
120501 - Follow up ref SDS 2 0000.
120502 -
120503 - Meetings today developed good ideas for converting Mil's armoire for
120504 - installng modern, large screen HD television. Lafayette Woodworking
120505 - has a lot of experience doing this work. Val presented design choices
120506 - for optimizing armoire conversion. ref SDS 0 YD81 Next week, he will
120507 - submit a price. ref SDS 0 XS6F Later in the afternoon, Kephart
120508 - Cabinetry proposed interesting options. ref SDS 0 FX3J Trade-off is
120509 - between 46" that requires hanging the television on a back panel, or
120510 - getting a 44" set and have flexibility of using a stand rather than
120511 - adding a back panel. ref SDS 0 QR6J
120528 -
120529 -
120530 -
120532 - ..
1206 -
1207 -
1208 - Progress
1209 -
120901 - Armoire Conversion Meeting on Scope Options Lafayette Woodworking
120902 -
120903 - Follow up ref SDS 2 7S6M.
120904 -
120905 - Meeting with Val Ory...
120907 - ..
120908 - Lafayette Woodworking
120909 - 1515 3rd Avenue
120910 - Walnut Creek, CA 94597
120911 - 925 932 5954
120912 - 925 200 3369... cell
120914 - ..
120915 - Lafayette Woodworking has extensive experience doing cabinetry for
120916 - BART projects the past 20 years.
120918 - ..
120919 - Requirements for armoire project are reported on 111122 1121.
120920 - ref SDS 2 IR5H
120922 - ..
120923 - Discuss size of television that can fit in revised Armoire, per
120924 - analysis on 111122 1121. ref SDS 2 6X7J
120926 - ..
120927 - Val recommends not using a television stand, and instead hanging the
120928 - television on a bracket he will attach to a new back panel he will
120929 - build.
120931 - ..
120932 - He explained advantages of using a simple, fixed bracket, rather than
120933 - a flexible, extending arm bracket. Val demonstrated how an extending
120934 - arm feature may not work well with tight clearances contemplaed for a
120935 - 46" television in the armoire.
120937 - ..
120938 - Eliminate the television stand results in needing only 27" vertical
120939 - clearance which seems adequate for a 46" television.
120940 -
120941 - [...below 111123 1100 at 1500 Paul explains advantages of
120942 - flexible, expanding arm bracket to hang the television
120943 - rather than use a fixed bracket. ref SDS 0 VD4I
120945 - ..
120946 - [...below 111123 1100 at 1722 analysis considers
120947 - eliminating back panel and bracket; and get smaller 44"
120948 - television that can sit with a stand on the new shelf.
120949 - ref SDS 0 QR6J
120951 - ..
120952 - New back panel will be added for connecting the fixed bracket needed
120953 - to hang the television. Seemed like Val proposes inserting a plywood
120954 - panel the full width and height of the new opening, perhaps 12" - 18"
120955 - inches from the front of the armoire, which might be 8" to 12" from
120956 - the existing back panel. This would create a blank space between the
120957 - two panels. It adds considerable strength to the box, essential later
120958 - when the unit needs to be picked up and moved.
120960 - ..
120961 - [...below consideration for full width, but not full height
120962 - back panel. ref SDS 0 5H6O
120964 - ..
120965 - [...below consider eliminating back panel, and using
120966 - television stand on new shelf rather than bracket
120967 - installation. ref SDS 0 QS3L
120969 - ..
120970 - Val proposes painting the back panel black, as a good background
120971 - against the black perimiter of the television.
120973 - ..
120974 - Initially, Val considered adding two new shelves. One would replace
120975 - the piece below the current television stand, and extend the full
120976 - width of the armoire. This design elimintes the top two of the 4
120977 - small drawers on the right side of the armoire.
120979 - ..
120980 - After further checking the size of the 46" television...
120981 -
120982 - http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/LN46C750R2FXZA-specs
120984 - ..
120985 - Val feels the work can be simplified by only adding a single shelf to
120986 - bridge across the 2nd drawer from the top. This eliminates just 1
120987 - drawer, rather than 2, and maintains the existing space for the
120988 - television controller, which is adequate for the new television.
120990 - ..
120991 - There are questions of maintenance. How do television vendors like
120992 - Comcast access the televison to make connections? How does the
120993 - customer make and remove HDMI connections to use the television as a
120994 - computer display?
120995 -
120996 - [...below consider eliminating back panel, and using
120997 - television stand on new shelf rather than bracket
120998 - installation. ref SDS 0 QS3L
121000 - ..
121001 - Val proposes cutting an opening in the back panel to provide access
121002 - from the back of the Armoire to make electrical connections.
121004 - ..
121005 - Val will submit a price including the bracket. He expects his
121006 - estimate will be submitted via email on Monday, 111128.
121014 -
121015 -
121017 - ..
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1213 - 1236
1214 -
121401 - Called Paul back.
121402 -
121403 - Set meeting for today at 1500.
121404 -
121406 - ..
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1216 -
1217 - 1500
1218 -
121801 - Kephart Cabinerty Meeting Develop Armoire Conversion Options
121802 -
121803 - Meeting with....
121804 -
121805 - Paul Kephart
121806 - Mastercraftsman
121807 - Kephart Cabinetry and Trim
121808 - Concord, CA 94520
121809 - 925 827 1093
121811 - ..
121812 - Licensed cabinet and millwork contractor #598395
121813 -
121814 -
121816 - ..
121817 - Paul's website...
121818 -
121819 - http://thecabinetmd.com/
121820 -
121821 - ...shows extensive experience doing high quality work required for
121822 - this project.
121824 - ..
121825 - Paul recommends using an extending arm bracket, discussed with Val, as
121826 - well, per above. ref SDS 0 YD81 He indicated the difference in price
121827 - with fixed bracket is about $50, for low-end extending arm brackets.
121828 - Discussed possible difficulties accessing cable connections,
121829 - experienced on Bob's television, reported on 111031 0800. ref SDS 1
121830 - CU3F
121832 - ..
121833 - [...below 111123 1100 at 1722 analysis considers
121834 - eliminating back panel and bracket; and get smaller 44"
121835 - television that can sit with a stand on the new shelf.
121836 - ref SDS 0 QR6J
121838 - ..
121839 - Paul feels the design can be simplified by eliminating one small
121840 - drawer and adding a shelf, also, discussed with Val, earlier, per
121841 - above. ref SDS 0 PP4Q
121843 - ..
121844 - Vertical right side panel has a filler panel for drawer guides. Paul
121845 - indicated that this would not be removed, because it is likely glued
121846 - to the main left side panel, and so would required extensive
121847 - refinishing to match the overall armoire appearance.
121849 - ..
121850 - Back panel - Paul explained the back panel would of course be full
121851 - width, but not full height of the new opening. Installation is easier
121852 - by making the back panel say 18" or 24" or so high, which is ample for
121853 - mounting the television bracket. He is thinking of using 2 pieces of
121854 - 3/4" plywood screwed together to provide significant structural
121855 - strength to the box, needed when moving the unit at some future time,
121856 - also, discussed with Val, per above. ref SDS 0 WI4F This new interim
121857 - back panel will be painted black that matches the television frame.
121859 - ..
121860 - Paul proposes that, rather than remove the entire middle vertical
121861 - panel, instead cut it back to within about 10" of the back panel.
121862 - This will maintain structural integrity of the overall box, and by
121863 - fastening the new interim panel proposed to hang the television with a
121864 - bracket, this will further strengthen the overall structure. These
121865 - details were not discussed, but may have been intended by Val, per
121866 - above. ref SDS 0 WI4F
121868 - ..
121869 - Finishes and appearance - the only member that will need finishing, is
121870 - the new shelf. The choice is to use mahogany which requires work to
121871 - match existing finish, or use paint grade lumber and paint it black,
121872 - like the back panel.
121874 - ..
121875 - Considered that rather than make a big effort to match existing
121876 - finish, paint the new shelf black like the new back panel. This might
121877 - provide an interesting asthetic divide between the armoire and the
121878 - television area above.
121880 - ..
121881 - Paul assured that the exiting finish can be easily matched. He seemed
121882 - to feel this would provide better appearance for the new shelf, and
121883 - maintain overall integrity of armoire.
121885 - ..
121886 - Paul will submit a price OA Monday, 111128.
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1222 -
122201 - Backpanel Bracket or TV Stand on New Shelf - Analysis Trade-offs
122202 -
122203 - May wind up going with 44" television, rather than 46. There seems to
122204 - be several hundred dollar cost difference for 2" of viewing space.
122205 - The smaller dimension provides greater flexibility and ease for
122206 - installation and future maneuvering, e.g., using the television in
122207 - another room. Looks like 46" television can fit, but not with a
122208 - stand. Bracket options, per above, ref SDS 0 VD4I, seem to present
122209 - complicatiions switching between television and computer display.
122211 - ..
122212 - May want to eliminate back panel bracket to hang the television, per
122213 - above, ref SDS 0 WI4F, and instead use a stand to set the television
122214 - directly on the new shelf. This might provide greater flexibility to
122215 - swing the televison for access to make HDMI connections, and it makes
122216 - moving the televison to another room faser and easier, if needed.
122218 - ..
122219 - Val seemed to indicate that mounting a television has unique
122220 - dimensions for each manufacturer,
122222 - ..
122223 - Might be possible to find a 46" television with a stand that fits the
122224 - opening, since configurations vary in height for different
122225 - manufacturers. Research at Fry's shows some stands are 3" - 4" high,
122226 - while others are less than 2".
122228 - ..
122229 - The front panel on the remaining small drawer can be cut down as much
122230 - as 1" to provide further clearance for using a stand, if needed.
122232 - ..
122233 - Alternatively, getting a 44" television solves the problem entirely,
122234 - providing flexibility to easily make changes later.
122236 - ..
122237 - Using a stand instead of a bracket may not provide ease of access
122238 - expected, if the back panel is close to the front of the armoire.
122239 - Swiveling the television will hit the back panel. The television will
122240 - have to slid forward off the shelf for full access. In that case the
122241 - set would have to be held with one hand while trying to manipulate
122242 - connections with the other. This is not an efficient configuration.
122244 - ..
122245 - May turn out that adding the new shelf alone which will span the full
122246 - width of the armoire will be sufficient structural strength that a
122247 - back panel is not needed.
122249 - ..
122250 - Since the new shelf will only be 20.5" deep, a 46" television that is
122251 - 44" wide can only be partially swing and maintain support on the
122252 - shelf. Seems like this will be adequate if the numbers come out
122253 - something like this...
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