Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 17:50:37 -0000
|From:||Yee Su Ling email@example.com|
|Subject:||6/1/2000 OHS minutes|
Minutes drafted by Su-Ling and improved by Eugene:
OHS Meeting 6/1/2000, SRI Engineering Bldg, EK255
Pat relayed that Werner Schaer (President, Software Productivity Consortium) is in favour of OHS, but SPC will not finance OHS development.
However in line with their mission to help member companies, SPC will hold workshops and meetings on using OHS when it is ready.
Doug noted that Werner is disappointed that Curt Carlson (CEO, SRI) is not more proactive.
Pat adds that while Curt remains convinced of the benefit and is a strong supporter of the big vision, there's not been any Institute action. SRI is not a cash rich place right now.
Curt is also not completely convinced about open source.
Doug, on the other hand, is convinced intuitively about the importance of open source, but he noted that it would be nice to have facts to back up his intuition.
Inviting people -- executives, technical, HR, etc. -- from other countries and organizations to participate, where these people meet and work on a plan for an organization, building from their experience. Mei Lin Fung, native of Singapore, has spoken with Singapore government who is ready to do this.
Eugene has taken all three summaries that have been done thus far and suggests we work on them to produce the statement for Pat.
Marcello points out that in marketing, we need to target individuals, look for the hook.
Eugene observes that there are lots of potential collaborations but we're not at that stage yet. Let's email leads to the list so this info will be archived for when we get to that stage.
Doug suggested starting with software development documents, determining the multiple views we'd like to have, and transcoding/translating into that form. Eugene stated that central to doing this was coming up with an intermediate file format.
Eric asked for a description of Augment's data structures. Doug said that was easily doable, and promised to put a presentation together.
Marcello asked whether this first step could be demonstratable as early as possible. A demonstration would show the value of what we're doing, and would pique people's imaginations. Eugene added that the high-level use cases will outline what we want to demo.
Eugene noted that there are two "first steps." Our own internal "first step" and the "first step" for Pat's audience. We can work out this latter paragraph next week, when Pat is back.
Doug brought up a presentation he is doing for DARPA-funded workshop in two weeks. He's not completely familiar with the audience at that workshop, and solicited ideas for what to present to this group.
John asked about Collab.net as a possible source of collaboration. Eugene reminded the group that they had met with Brian Behlendorf of Collab.net a few weeks ago. There's a lot of synergy, but funding is not likely, because Collab.net is a startup. VA Linux/SourceForge is a better shorter term opportunity. However, in both cases, we need to reach a certain stage before any group takes us seriously. It's important for us to achieve that stage before we can expect groups in general to take us seriously.
Doug also brought up a presentation he's doing for Cadence at the end of the month. The company wants him to talk about this project.
We all agreed that having demos ready as soon as possible is a good internal first step. Augment should serve as an initial demo, but Marcello noted that we need to have more visually exciting demos. Augment is so fast, it can be hard to follow what's going on without full concentration. Talked about mocking up demos, and proposed various ways of doing this.
Warren proposes we have a show and tell, a presentation of what people in the team would like to do.
Doug said to start with XML and XML-related terms. Eugene suggested "transcoding" and "translating."
Doug said that if he received a copy of the glossary early enough, he would suck it into Augment, and show how Augment aided the collaborative development of glossaries.
Yee Su Ling